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re: Breaking: U.S. military aircraft conduct a strike on ISIS artillery in Iraq
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:47 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:47 am to GeauxxxTigers23
UVerse called. He should be here by 11:50. If there isn't any traffic. 
Hopefully they will be showing something on the news soon.
Hopefully they will be showing something on the news soon.
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:57 am to MSCoastTigerGirl
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UVerse called. He should be here by 11:50. If there isn't any traffic.
Hope you don't live in BR
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:01 pm to elprez00
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Keeping track of the good guys and bad guys in the Middle East is like watching 90's WWE reruns.
Sig worthy
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:02 pm to elprez00
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Keeping track of the good guys and bad guys in the Middle East is like watching 90's WWE reruns.
have an upvote
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:03 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
Update: They first airstrikes were carried out by F/A-18's flying off the carrier USS George Bush 
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:28 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Update: They first airstrikes were carried out by F/A-18's flying off the carrier USS George Bush
Warheads on foreheads
boom boom boommmm
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:42 pm to Wolfhound45
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Just curious, who is providing on the ground intelligence for these airstrikes? Communicating with the aircraft? Marking targets?
Well considering the Iraqi military ran, we know we're not going to hit any of them.
Smart airstrikes could work but will only have a long term impact if the Iraqi government changes, hell it'll only have a medium term impact if the Iraqi army steps up and exploits them (like how the Northern Alliance exploited the strikes against the Taliban and basically retook most of Afghanistan before regular US forces hit the ground).
Notice how ISIS has made little to no headway in the Kurdish regions-- actually going around them on the way South? Yeah, that's because the people in Kurdistan back the government and the militia forces there will stand, fight and likely rout ISIS.
Its depressing to think about but non-Kurdish Iraq may have been largely lost in 2004 and 2005 when it devolved into an even more sectarian state driven by ethnic retaliation. At this point the Shia basically back Iran (which they largely did after 1991 when we called on them to rise up and then let Saddam mow them down), the Sunnis side with ISIS and the Kurds while pro-Western (excepting Turkey) basically just want their own state.
Actually, let me rephrase that- Iraq may have been lost under Saddam who by consolidating power in large part (but not entirely) along tribal/religious lines created a time bomb that was going to explode into reprisal and counter reprisal the moment a power vacuum existed or possibly in the aftermath of WW1 when it was drawn up.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:46 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Update: They first airstrikes were carried out by F/A-18's flying off the carrier USS George Bush
This is so awesome.
And I finally have TV again.
But now I'm leaving to go do something fun with the rest of the day that I took off for this BS. Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:49 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
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But now I'm leaving to go do something fun with the rest of the day that I took off for this BS.
Have fun and don't drive and post. You know, like you plan on doing on your way to the voting booth.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:55 pm to trackfan
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Considering all the countries in the region that have a greater vested interest than the U.S. in stopping ISIS (Eg. Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.), why did it fall on us to conduct these air stikes, why couldn't they have done it?
They buy all that fancy military hardware from us not use it on other countries but to look cool in front of the other dictators and to intimidate their own people-- its like a rich dude with a Bugatti-- its not to race (how gauche) its to look good at the Polo match.
Well that and the one country other than Iraq with a clear animus towards ISIS is Syria and we're not exactly going to ask the guy everyone on Earth outside of Russia considers a freaking mass murdering butcher to start bombing Iraq.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:58 pm to Placebeaux
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Got to protect those Jewish owned oil fields in Kurdistan. Bah
LINK
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So far, other than the city of Mosul, the insurgents have steered clear of eastern Kurdistan, which is trying to ramp up its oil production and which has often touted its relatively better security situation as a way to attract foreign investment. One concern is that, if the militants turn east, they could threaten Kurdish oil fields and take out some Iraqi production.
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now, companies operating in the region appear calm. Chevron said, "Our activities continue as normal in the region." A spokesman for Genel Energy, a Turco-British firm operating in Kurdistan, said that because ISIS is apparently avoiding taking on Kurdish forces directly, "There should therefore be no disruption in oil production or shipment on the [Kurdish] side."
There is a big dispute over who owns the oil being produced in those northern fields. The pipeline for those northern fields runs through turkey and was attacked a few months back. There is also a huge oil tanker sitting off the coast of Texas full of Genel Energy oil that is in dispute from the Iraq government.
My theory is we are protecting the business interest of those oil companies in that region but I guess following the money is just crazy
Oh please, they aren't fighting the Kurds because without heavy weapons the Kurds will slaughter them and even if they win a few skirmishes they can't hide out among the civilian population because the civilian population supports their government and will either turn them in or gun them down themselves.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I won't. I'm a woman. We are bad enough drivers.
I'm making the exception for you on Election Day.
Sweet cheeks
I'm making the exception for you on Election Day.
Sweet cheeks
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:03 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
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I'm making the exception for you on Election Day.
Sweet cheeks
I feel honored
SugarTi............Oh, nevermind.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:04 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
About what Coastie? Dropping some iron, will achieve little if anything. Dropping some MREs to the Kurds ALA Operation Provide Comfort from years ago.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:07 pm to socraticsilence
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Oh please, they aren't fighting the Kurds because without heavy weapons the Kurds will slaughter them and even if they win a few skirmishes they can't hide out among the civilian population because the civilian population supports their government and will either turn them in or gun them down themselves.
Huh?
Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:08 pm to goldennugget
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but if we can fire some missles and slow down a genocidal group like ISIS in the process I have no problem with it
IMHO, US airpower alone can ONLY slow down ISIL/ISIS, not stop them.
IMHO, it's too late for US airpower to stop them. Obama's actions are too little, too late.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 2:33 pm to Champagne
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IMHO, it's too late for US airpower to stop them. Obama's actions are too little, too late.
and there it is...Even when he is doing the right thing you find a way that he isn't.
Congrats for staying on message.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 2:34 pm to asurob1
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and there it is...Even when he is doing the right thing you find a way that he isn't.
Congrats for staying on message.
That train is never late
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:29 pm to asurob1
quote:Not everyone agrees with you that conducting airstrikes is the right thing. Isn't it fair for them to criticize Obama?
and there it is...Even when he is doing the right thing you find a way that he isn't.
When George W. Bush signed the No Child Left Behind program into law he was criticized by many progressives for not doing enough. The same with Medicare prescription coverage. The message you complain about is one that is quite common. Even good policies executed poorly will generate criticism.
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