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re: Bergdahl returns to U.S. Army active duty in Texas
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:01 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:01 am to SpidermanTUba
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How the hell is Bates NOT a deserter and Bergdhal IS? They both left base in a combat zone without permission. Only difference is one of them murdered like 16 civilians - so I guess its not desertion in that case.
If he didn't go on a rampage he probably would have been charged with desertion.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:10 am to C
Notice it's all about Barry, similar to a Barry speech. He isn't worth the keystrokes guys, he's obtuse for the thrill of it.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:27 am to SpidermanTUba
I specifically remember calling that guy a psycho on this very board.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:29 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Did you make staff or you still got another year before you test?
Still got a year. Just missed the timing to test this year. By like 2 weeks based on date of rank
Oh well. More studying time right?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:34 am to TbirdSpur2010
You in the air force too? I just switched over. How exactly do promotions work in the AF?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:36 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Welcome to the blue
Depends on if you're enlisted or officer (like my wife ).
Junior enlisted get promoted through time in grade primarily. After that, you have to test to earn additional stripes for NCO/SNCO ranks.
Depends on if you're enlisted or officer (like my wife ).
Junior enlisted get promoted through time in grade primarily. After that, you have to test to earn additional stripes for NCO/SNCO ranks.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 6:37 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:37 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I specifically remember calling that guy a psycho on this very board.
Sounds like an excuse for his pre-meditated, ruthless, and cold blooded actions.
Did you suggest the death penalty?
Did you suggest that he betrayed his country?
I mean - not for the murdering of 16 civilians - just for the desertion?
Has he even been charged with the desertion? Maybe its not too late.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 6:38 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:39 am to SpidermanTUba
I'm pro death penalty, especially when it comes to killing kids, so I'm sure I did. And he didn't betray his country. He lost his damn mind and went on a murderous rampage.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:43 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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And he didn't betray his country.
Did Bergdahl? He left the base without permission - just the same.
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He lost his damn mind
bullshite. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:45 am to SpidermanTUba
Bates didn't desert from my understanding. Desertion means you don't intend to come back. And no one is asking to withhold a trial or an investigation but what leads you to believe bergdahl intended to return? Assume he lies to investigators, what evidence would satisfy your reasonable doubt of his innocence to the charge of desertion?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:50 am to C
NOTE---------
Sorry - I think I may have been saying BaTes in some cases - its BaLes, mea culpa.
His time AWOL only counts from the time he left base until his capture. Since that's less than 30 days, the burden of proof is actually on the military to show he did not intend to return. That's what I read on the internets at least, do you know different? In theory he could remain silent if the military has no evidence of his intent to not return.
Sorry - I think I may have been saying BaTes in some cases - its BaLes, mea culpa.
quote:
Bates didn't desert from my understanding. Desertion means you don't intend to come back. And no one is asking to withhold a trial or an investigation but what leads you to believe bergdahl intended to return? Assume he lies to investigators, what evidence would satisfy your reasonable doubt of his innocence to the charge of desertion?
His time AWOL only counts from the time he left base until his capture. Since that's less than 30 days, the burden of proof is actually on the military to show he did not intend to return. That's what I read on the internets at least, do you know different? In theory he could remain silent if the military has no evidence of his intent to not return.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Then I believe you just test like normal.
I actually have to run for now but best of luck with the transition, sir!
I actually have to run for now but best of luck with the transition, sir!
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:54 am to SpidermanTUba
So if it's proven he was seeking out the Taliban would that be enough for you?
What evidence can the military present that would cause you to doubt his innocence?
What evidence can the military present that would cause you to doubt his innocence?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:54 am to SpidermanTUba
The 30 day thing doesn't apply in a combat zone. I don't why that keeps getting brought up.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 7:02 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Still got a year. Just missed the timing to test this year. By like 2 weeks based on date of rank
Oh well. More studying time right?
I made it, my line # is in the middle
Posted on 7/15/14 at 7:03 am to StraightCashHomey21
Congratulations!!!!!
That's awesome stuff, man
That's awesome stuff, man
Posted on 7/15/14 at 7:03 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I specifically remember calling that guy a psycho on this very board.
Right but your hate for Berghdahl, and the deeply vicious nature of your insults for him and his future, are quite obvious. This guy, not so much. You should be outraged that a guy goes on a murdering rampage and only gets life in prison, and is just labeled a psycho. Berghdahl walks off base, gets picked up by the Taliban, and is a traitorous, POS, motherfricker that should be hanged and burned. Oh, and his family gets death threats.
I don't like any of you military types as it is. I have zero respect for your views of accountability, and none of you are role models for anyone. The majority of you just subject yourselves to some brainwashing, a money grab, and are allowed free-reign of very loose morals. If Berghdahl realized that, and was persecuted/ridiculed by his platoon for it, then he is all the better for it.
Let's ask a more succinct question: since most soldiers have the legal right to kill/defend themselves in the theater of war, which death troubles you more, those of defenseless children, or those of trained soldiers who sign up for it?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 7:07 am to EthanL
This guy worked up a good mad this morning.
I like that. Stay that way
I like that. Stay that way
Posted on 7/15/14 at 7:11 am to EthanL
The death of children will always bother me more. More than you will ever know. I've seen innocent children gunned down. It will hunt me for the rest of my life. And I wouldn't have shed a tear if Bales were executed. But he didn't betray his brothers. Bergdahl did. I don't want to sound cliché, but he broke the code. frick him. It would have more than fine with me if both were executed.
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