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re: Ben Shapiro's plan for fixing SS is for everyone to work until they die
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:58 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:58 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Fine by me!
Now if the government would simply quit taking FICA from hard working Americans
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and cut every taxpayer a check for total FICA paid (including employer match) with a 5-6% compounded earnings annually .....and shut it down.
the governemnt doesn't have your money. They already spent it. You can have some IOUs though if you want. quote:Almost anything is.
This ^^^^ is much more sensible than student loan forgiveness.
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:58 pm to Taxing Authority
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nope. it stops being your money the day the government takes it.
So your official stance is that SS contributions don't constitute an earned benefit once you hit full retirement age?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:59 pm to Taxing Authority
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What he's saying is the government doesn't own you an income just because you're old.
Just please give me all the money I paid into SS and I am good.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:00 pm to Powerman
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SS income is an earned benefit
Exactly, I'm not asking that government take care of me but if that's the case, then they should pay me back whatever I paid into it and I'll be on my way.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:00 pm to Powerman
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So your official stance is that SS contributions don't constitute an earned benefit once you hit full retirement age?
Considering I won't ever see a cent of that money, no they don't.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:01 pm to Powerman
quote:Sure, if you have your own media empire. What about the workaday joes who are counting the days until retirement from their shitty factory jobs? Their 'purpose in life' tends to be family and hobbies.
once you lose your purpose in life, “things go to hell in a handbasket real quick.”
Shapiro just wants that money to be free to give to Israel. He's crunched the numbers and found that we can't have retirement funds and still fund his holy of holies.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:01 pm to Tantal
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but a sedentary lifestyle with no purpose in old age will kill you quickly.
Yep, my dad worked till he was 80 and died at 93, my step dad retired at 55 and died at 92
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:02 pm to Powerman
1. Raise the retirement age.
2. Raise the maximum taxable wage.
3. Means test.
Fixed.
Social Security should be seen as what it was originally designed as, a retirement insurance plan. It was never intended to simply be an IRA run by the federal government.
2. Raise the maximum taxable wage.
3. Means test.
Fixed.
Social Security should be seen as what it was originally designed as, a retirement insurance plan. It was never intended to simply be an IRA run by the federal government.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:03 pm to dgnx6
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A lot of old people work or go back to work out of need or just boredom.
Yes, it really depends on your plans and activities for retirement. My brother and I are retired.
I knew that I was going to fill my time with gym, gardening, golf, reading, cooking, cleaning, playing with dogs. I love being retired.
He worked a few years longer because he had no activities other than watching T.V. Now his health is declining fast.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:04 pm to DyeHardDylan
They killed the family unit, so this one is going to leave a mark when it finally collapses
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:06 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Considering I won't ever see a cent of that money, no they don't.
So you're going to die before full retirement age?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:10 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Yep, my dad worked till he was 80 and died at 93, my step dad retired at 55 and died at 92
Did they have something to keep them busy or did they lay around on their asses? My guess is that they found something purposeful to occupy their time, even if it wasn't for pay. If not, they must have won the genetic lottery.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:14 pm to Tantal
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Did they have something to keep them busy or did they lay around on their asses? My guess is that they found something purposeful to occupy their time, even if it wasn't for pay. If not, they must have won the genetic lottery.
And for the purposes of this discussion it seems a bit irrelevant no?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:17 pm to Powerman
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So you're going to die before full retirement age?
By the time I am eligible, the age will be 90.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:19 pm to Tantal
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Did they have something to keep them busy or did they lay around on their asses?
Step dad and my mom traveled a lot by motorhome with their dogs, and he also volunteered a lot at Auburn with their engineering programs, using his vast connections in the aerospace and defense contracting days to help raise money for projects and stuff like that. He did come from a genetic long life family. His mother lived to 103.
My dad of course worked till 80 but was an active runner and weightlifter. Parkinson's kicked in about 82 and was bedridden for the last 2.5 years, but he was born with the stubborn lottery. LOL
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:46 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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By the time I am eligible, the age will be 90.
How old are you? This is just hyperbolic nonsense.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:53 pm to Powerman
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The American dream...work all your life until you're too ill to work anymore.
Social Security was always meant as a safety net, not a retirement plan.
It was never meant for a healthy 62-year-old to retire and soak up payments for 30-plus years.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:04 pm to Powerman
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“Frankly, I think retirement itself is a stupid idea unless you have some sort of health problem,” he says, adding that, once you lose your purpose in life, “things go to hell in a handbasket real quick.”
Frankly, I think he's talking straight outta his arse. A better solution is, the federal government stop spending OUR taxes on stupid shite, revamp Social Security, and NOT raise the retirement age!!!!
How bout dat?
Ben's fingernails stay clean and he's never done a day of hard work.
If construction workers, truck drivers, electricians, plumbers, carpenters, linesmen, nurses, people who actually make this country go round, stopped working...
This country would come to a screeching halt. Ben adds no real value to life. This country would never skip a beat if many white collar jobs suddenly disappeared.
Different story if suddenly there were no one to maintain electrical lines, or plumbers, or carpenters...
You get what I'm saying. There are way more of us than them.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I plan under the assumption that I will not see a single cent of it, which seems likely.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:10 pm to Powerman
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I'm being a little hyperbolic
Just a little.
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