re: Barack Obama, Ferguson, and the Evidence of Things Unsaid

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This, I, and most here will agree with. And there are numerous, NUMEROUS, threads posted here about this topic. If there is one unifying topic on this board, it is the atrocities of police overreach and militarization.

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I see it more as lip service. When it comes down to it, this board is on the "law and order" bandwagon. They don't seem to have lost much sleep about the St. Louis cop who was wildly pointing his rifle at civilians and screaming he would "fricking kill" them.

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BUT, Ferguson is not solely about that, and you know it. Ferguson is about a white person killing a black person. I guarantee you that none of this would have happened if A) the cop was black, and/or B) Michael Brown was white.

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That's very true. But often the boiling over point happens in relation to an event that is not perfectly aligned with the narrative. Certainly you recognize this. Is it so hard for you to understand that the militarization of the police has really harmed black people in neighborhoods like these?

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That in and of itself shows that this is not about police overreach, it's about black vs. white. And the fact that they are using this incident, an incident where all evidence points to Wilson being in the right, just shows how disconnected they are with reality, and that their end goal is not justice, it's chaos and racial victimization.

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I don't agree. I think they think it's a daily war with the police and the police are ultimately controlled by white America.

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The Trayvon Martin example was used in similar fashion. Problem is that the rabid race baiters don't wait for facts to emerge beyond "black person killed by white person....err, white-Hispanic person" before hitching their wagons to the given incident. This shows that the race baiters are not interested in the facts. These poor examples, in turn, blow up in their faces in the end and do a dis-service to those seeking true justice with real examples of racism and waters down legitimate grievances.

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I agree, somewhat.

However, you have to realize that most everyone alive today has relatives that filled their heads with stories of when the exact opposite was true in America - i.e. just being black could get you killed for looking at a white person sideways.

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I see it more as lip service. When it comes down to it, this board is on the "law and order" bandwagon. They don't seem to have lost much sleep about the St. Louis cop who was wildly pointing his rifle at civilians and screaming he would "fricking kill" them.

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Lip service? What does that even mean? This is a message board, people post messages. Go look around here and the OT board right now. There are a couple threads about police injustices, and the majority of people are AGAINST the police.

What exactly are you doing to help curb police injustice? You are doing exactly what everyone here is doing, posting on a message board about it. For some reason you have this view of yourself as some vigilante against injustice, but what have you actually done to help that cause that anyone here hasn't?

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That's very true. But often the boiling over point happens in relation to an event that is not perfectly aligned with the narrative. Certainly you recognize this. Is it so hard for you to understand that the militarization of the police has really harmed black people in neighborhoods like these?

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No, I don't understand illogical actions. When you have a legitimate cause to protest for, you protest, and the message is taken much more seriously.

When you use a case like this (and Trayvon for that matter), as your shining example of injustice, people do not take it seriously, and it hurts your cause further because it is illogical. Burning down buildings in the name of a criminal does not help your cause, I'm sorry.

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I don't agree. I think they think it's a daily war with white America.

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That's all it is. Trade Wilson for a black police officer and none of this would have happened.

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No, I don't understand illogical actions. When you have a legitimate cause to protest for, you protest, and the message is taken much more seriously. When you use a case like this (and Trayvon for that matter), as your shining example of injustice, people do not take it seriously, and it hurts your cause further because it is illogical. Burning down buildings in the name of a criminal does not help your cause, I'm sorry.

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This ^^^ x 1,000! Well said...and the sad thing is that when these instances are PROVEN to have been invalid, the vast majority looking for headlines and trouble continue to pretend their initial knee-jerk reaction was spot on accurate as if rational people don't see how ridiculous their actions are. That does a tremendous amount of damage to overall race relations and drowns out the voices of those when the wolf actually shows up for a feast.

Many of us whites posting here would be glad to stand with the black community arm in arm if there was a truly racially based provocative incident thrown into the spotlight but damn, don't ask me to get righteously riled up when the issue is trumped up.