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re: B Clinton to be unmasked as ‘Doe 36’ and identified more than 50 times in Epstein doc dump

Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:51 am to
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:51 am to
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but I don’t judge


Sure you do.

You've actually been doing it in this very thread.
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:53 am to
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The people who know what happened on that island are either dead, or not talking. Maxwell should be coerced. She’s probably the last one.


What US laws were broken when he visited an island that was in another country?


If he had sex with a prostitute there wouldn’t that fall under those laws and not be under investigation with Federal resources.


There maybe human trafficking concerns, but unless Clinton himself was recruiting young girls to go to the island. I don’t see how he could be charged under U.S. law.


It maybe embarrassing to the Clinton brand, but what is usually an embarrassment to for a Democrat is usually a resume enhancement as the famous ElRushbo put it.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:58 am to
There actual is a federal law on this, to prosecute American sex tourists (but it was more for the Thailand variety than the Bahamas).

LINK

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Section 2423(b) of Title 18, United States Code, is a similar provision. Section 2423(b) makes it a crime for United States citizens or legal permanent residents to travel from the United States to a foreign country with the intent to engage in illegal sexual conduct with a child such as rape, molestation, or prostitution. The difference between Section 2423(b) and Section 2423(c) is that Section 2423(b) statute requires proof that the defendant had formed his criminal intent at the time he began to travel. The penalty for this offense is also up to 30 years in prison. Finally, Section 2423(d) makes it a crime to be what is known informally as being a “child sex tour operator.” This statute makes it an offense to profit by facilitating the travel of U.S. Citizens or legal permanent residents, knowing that they are traveling for the purpose of engaging in illegal sex with a minor. The penalty for this offense is up to 30 years in prison.


Now, this is the type of law that gets real scary, real fast, for the reasons you brought up. It basically extends American jurisdiction beyond our borders on flimsy legal grounds. It's easy to digest when the first law is about sex with minors, but we all know that's a backdoor to expanding the use of these types of laws.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 7:59 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:59 am to
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Wrong, you lazy frick.. you are watching football, enjoying life and POSTING ON THE POLITICAL BOARD OF TD…. But oh, youre just so above it all, arent you ? What a loser.. why dont you log off and actually do something useful .


You seem like the type of guy who has to pay women to talk to you.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:02 am to
Is John Doe really the best they could come up with
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:03 am to
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My desire to leave the good ole USA has nothing to do with “young girls”

Men don't move from the USA to Thailand unless they are failures looking to take part in some type of sex tourism. You are 100% a predator.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:06 am to
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There maybe human trafficking concerns, but unless Clinton himself was recruiting young girls to go to the island. I don’t see how he could be charged under U.S. law.


Clinton is teflon, nothing sticks.

Dude raped women, had state troopers running cover and still hasnt been held accountable.

Pretty much the entire State of Arkansas was aware of his activity, and did nothing.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:09 am to
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Men don't move from the USA to Thailand unless they are failures looking to take part in some type of sex tourism.

I don't know this guy buy Thailand is one of the countries often cited by people either retiring abroad, leaving the "failing USA", or trying to live in a more traditional society away from modern, Western women. There's a large ex pat community in Thailand who actually lives there and has nothing to do with the sex tourism.

From what others have said, though, if you haven't already left, it's probably too late for Thailand b/c it got so popular. Colombia and Costa Rica are in this boat, too.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:13 am to
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I don't know this guy buy Thailand is one of the countries often cited by people either retiring abroad


Sex tourism has always been the big draw.

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A few years ago, on a flight to Phuket, a couple of young Indian guys were giddy when they told me about what they’d been up to along Soi Nana in Bangkok. “We ordered girls from a menu,” they laughed, “as if they were pizza or hot dogs.” I didn’t scold them for comparing human beings to food, but I did remind them than many women who work as prostitutes in Thailand are forced into it; even those who enter the profession semi-willingly are rarely remunerated in full for the services they perform.

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:15 am to
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Men don't move from the USA to Thailand unless they are failures looking to take part in some type of sex tourism. You are 100% a predator.


It used to be cheap. An old coworker of mine used to spend winters there, summers here, back in the 90s. But I have no doubt he was looking for cheap sex more than cheap living.

Prostitution will forever be a crime with victims. You cant get the "trafficking" out of the business.

This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 8:17 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:16 am to
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Sex tourism has always been the big draw.

Yes, for tourists.

It was a hot market for Western expats due to the low COL, but too many moved there and the COL savings aren't that great (like with other areas like Colombia and Costa Rica). Lots of English speakers (in the cities), jobs, etc.

I think Portugal is still cheap but there are reasons why (infrastructure issues, major economic issues, etc.). Portugal is more a place for the retiring ex pat to make retirement stretch longer than for working-age ex pats.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:24 am to
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It was a hot market for Western expats due to the low COL


So are various other countries, they dont have the sex tourism infrastructure though.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:27 am to
Yes but like with the other expat countries, once the COL caught up (due to higher Western demand), the ex pat immigration decreased.

Sex tourism is real, popular there, and gross. But it's still tourism. Those freaks leave. The expats stay. You can get easy access to prostitutes in all of these countries b/c they're less developed than the West.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:31 am to
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But it's still tourism


Unless you emigrate there, then there is a good chance someone moved there because they cant get laid here.

Dude might not be looking for a ladyboy, but Thailand was a cultural joke for decades over the issue.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 8:40 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:33 am to
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There maybe human trafficking concerns, but unless Clinton himself was recruiting young girls to go to the island. I don’t see how he could be charged under U.S. law.


If Clinton were to be prosecuted for any sex related crime, it would open a whole can of worms DC doesnt want opened. Nothing is going to happen.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 8:34 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:51 am to
It must be an odd feeling to know you can rape, molest, and assault women indiscriminately for decades, and in spite of everyone knowing you do it, you are never held accountable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:54 am to
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It must be an odd feeling to know you can rape, molest, and assault women indiscriminately for decades, and in spite of everyone knowing you do it, you are never held accountable.


The Clinton Stories are wild. Everyone in the State knew what was going on...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:55 am to
It isn't even that big of a secret. Even Primary Colors had a subplot about him impregnating a minor, IIRC.

The book and movie came out during the Clinton Presidency.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:08 am to
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Prostitution will forever be a crime with victims. You cant get the "trafficking" out of the business.

That's not true. Plenty of victimless prostitutes out there..... But in today's state of illegality of course it will attract the traffickers and worst of the worst
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:12 am to
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That's not true. Plenty of victimless prostitutes out there.


If there is a third party involved, most likely the girl is a victim.




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