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Are there any concrete ideas to prevent police brutality in any of this?

Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:56 am
Watching brief news snippets where they give these black politicians and activists any amount of air time, they all use a lot of words to say absolutely nothing at all.

I've heard vague "suggestions" like deescalation training. . . This is already a training point. A big one actually. Just because you train it doesn't mean an officer will utilize it properly. . . 100% of the time. They're human. Most of these critics have invested no time at all in understanding what training police officers receive.

"Stop killing black people". This one is especially entertaining because they assume that officers are killing innocent blacks minding their own business. It's also one of the most one sided suggestions. I'm sure the police's suggestion is for black people to not commit crimes and resist when they're caught.

All of the suggestions are action items for the police side and no accountability on the criminals side.

There's no real argument justifying Chauvin murdering the guy, but he had every right to get him in cuffs by the means he used. The limitation of that force ended once he was cuffed. He definitely should have put the child locks on the doors and put him in the car.

It is absolutely insane that one rogue officer made a terrible decision and they're ready to burn the country down over it. This is far from a regular occurrence in the days of cameras being everywhere.

These activists would benefit themselves exponentially if they would get past the knee jerk comments and lay some concrete constructive suggestions at the Chief of Police's feet. They never seem to get there.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
6201 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:56 am to
There “solution” would be never to arrest or confront black people again.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115870 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:58 am to
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There “solution” would be never to arrest or confront black people again.




You actually are not wrong.

There is an actual movement to "not call police on black people".
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71455 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:58 am to
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There “solution” would be never to arrest or confront black people again.


Looks like they are accomplishing this.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80155 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:58 am to
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Are there any concrete ideas to prevent police brutality in any of this?


There’s not much more you can do... All statistics show a drop in this over the past 3yrs or so.

You’re always going to have bad apples that ruin it for everyone.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
6201 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:59 am to
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Looks like they are accomplishing this


Yep
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:59 am to
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Are there any concrete ideas
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8162 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:01 am to
Not commit crimes
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111525 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:01 am to
1) End no-knock raids.
2) Move police liability insurance to the police budget and make it part of a package of funding.
3) Disincentive municipalities and counties to use ticket/court revenue as funding mechanisms.
4) State-level prosecutor to investigate and prosecute police use-of-force.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:01 am to
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There is an actual movement to "not call police on black people".

Now what bad things could possibly happen to a neighborhood where neighbors quit calling the cops and let the gangs and thugs take over?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:01 am to
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There's no real argument justifying Chauvin murdering the guy, but he had every right to get him in cuffs by the means he used. The limitation of that force ended once he was cuffed


Wasn't he cuffed before he ever put his knee on his neck?
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:02 am to
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Are there any concrete ideas to prevent police brutality in any of this?


Yes

But none of them are possible because in order to even talk about them, you first have to recognize that it isn't a race problem.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141180 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:02 am to
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quote:

LSURussian

checks out
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34102 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:03 am to
My old man always said the guy that throws the second punch always gets the blame. For every action, there is a reaction. And it always takes two to tango. Don't give the police a reason to react.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48359 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:03 am to
Your thread title poses a very good question, and then you touch on the topic of "training."

My military experience inspires me to say that "more training" is the answer.

How do we get "more training" for our civilian police forces? That's the topic for another thread.

What's NOT the answer? Using collective guilt as a reason to support wanton rage, burning, stealing and killing. Why is it not the answer? Because that kind of behavior will hasten the decline and fall of the United States of America; THAT kind of behavior will cause OUR civilization to become a wasteland ruled by uncivilized gangs.
Posted by corneredbeast
02134
Member since Sep 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:03 am to
A must is for them to 'police' themselves. One or two or three can't stand around watching another doing something they know is illegal.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99042 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:04 am to
I have a simple proposal:

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:05 am to
Getting rid of police unions would be a great start. They are half the problem.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
6091 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:05 am to
The fundamental issue is one of how individuals act and behave. There are bad people in every profession. Humans are not infallible and are imperfect beings, and with that bad things can and will happen. It sucks, but that is the truth. The natural response should not be to burn and loot cities because we will never live in a perfect world where bad things don’t happen.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:06 am to
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Getting rid of police unions would be a great start. They are half the problem.
While we're at it, can we outlaw ALL public sector unions?

I mean. It's another thread, but I honestly don't even comprehend the concept of a public sector union.
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