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re: Apt Complex Requires Tenant To Remove US Flag - "Threat to Muslim Community"
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:50 am to bamarep
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:50 am to bamarep
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I would tell the owner and the Muslims to go piss up a rope.
Freedom of speech brah!
Doesn't apply in this case. It will be governed by contract law.
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:51 am to Antonio Moss
get out of here with your fancy legal jargon.
this is about 'merica, bub
this is about 'merica, bub
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:52 am to boosiebadazz
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So the tenant was whoring for some media attention? Shocker.
Still something we don't know. Did you really think the complex would come out with a statement saying "we don't allow US flags because they are a threat to the Muslim community" after the blowback they've already seen?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:55 am to imjustafatkid
I think the complex addressed it here:
Now of course if you just want to read some pro-Muslim, anti-American sentiment in to it, you're going to do it regardless of what the complex says.
Is that what we're doing here?
quote:
Stars and Stripes Misunderstanding
June 19, 2014
We understand that the recent events surrounding the display of the United States Flag on the balcony railing has caused a great deal of consternation. We regret that the policies, consistent with the hotel and apartment industry, have created an incorrect perception that we are not supportive of patriotism.
Residents are allowed to display flags inside their balconies. However, tarps, tents, flags, towels or clothing are not permitted on or over the railing of balconies and patios in order to maintain an aesthetically consistent image.
We are committed to providing a safe, comfortable and pleasant living environment to our residents through service, attention to detail and exacting expectations. Our goal is to deliver a positive living experience for all of our residents and regret the misunderstanding.
We apologize for anything that may have been communicated regarding the policy that was offensive to Mr. Tran at The Lodge on El Dorado in Webster, Texas. We admire our resident’s patriotism and proudly display our Country’s flag at the entrance to our community.
Now of course if you just want to read some pro-Muslim, anti-American sentiment in to it, you're going to do it regardless of what the complex says.
Is that what we're doing here?
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:56 am to SpidermanTUba
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SpidermanTUba
Boy, getting your fat arse stuffed into that trash can really fricked you up in the head, didn't it?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:56 am to GRTiger
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frick man, we get it. You think he is lying. It's not a bad guess, but you went from suspicious to absolutely certain in about 3 minutes.
Apparently not as this thread has gone on and on as if it were fact. When you take into account the location and the apt rules, it becomes obvious that it' a bullshite story.
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If the manager is a Muslim, I could see him/her saying something stupid like "As a Muslim and former Iranian citizen, this offends me" and he repeated it the way he did.
First, in Webster TX, essentially S Houston between Houston and Galveston you're more likely to find old beat up pwt or mexicans with a few asians. There is no muslim pop of note.
Secondly, a former Iranian citizen would be the last person to complain about an American flag display.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:58 am to imjustafatkid
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Did you really think the complex would come out with a statement saying "we don't allow US flags because they are a threat to the Muslim community" after the blowback they've already seen?
But you imagine it is a possibility considering the blow back they would encounter here in Houston, TX??? Especially considering the reason they told him to take it down was based on their policy...why would they make such an incendiary statement when all they had to do is say "it's the rules"???
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:59 am to cwill
No problem. I responded before I read the statement from the complex
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:02 am to cwill
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Apparently not as this thread has gone on and on as if it were fact.
Well, it's what was posted in the OP, so people discuss it from that perspective. That's generally how threads work.
I live in Houston. I know Webster. I get your point, but you are still taking a story and deciding to just call it a lie rather than discuss it on it's face. Again, you could be right, but if people changed parts of the story to suit their argument, discussion would be impossible.
And thanks for clarifying the Iranian thing. Totally not the point of that statement, but I appreciate it.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:03 am to cwill
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Tran was full of shite and trolled everyone.
Not surprisingly, this board again jumps right into the pool before looking at the big picture and realizing they just jumped into a toilet.
Not surprisingly, people tell only the things they want to tell that supports their views.
Not surprisingly, many internet sites post ridiculously one sided stories that when further investigated prove to be totally clueless.
Not surprisingly, people on this board jump right on any story because if its on the internet, it must be true.
Not surprisingly, people on this board buy into a story that most people would read and say, well hey that just doesn't sound right. Rather than looking into it, they just believe it.
So, all in all, just another day on the poliboard.
Who started this story?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:04 am to cwill
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But you imagine it is a possibility considering the blow back they would encounter here in Houston, TX??? Especially considering the reason they told him to take it down was based on their policy...why would they make such an incendiary statement when all they had to do is say "it's the rules"???
I doubt the people making that statement are the same ones who told him not to fly the flag.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:04 am to boosiebadazz
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Now of course if you just want to read some pro-Muslim, anti-American sentiment in to it, you're going to do it regardless of what the complex says.
Is that what we're doing here?
I never want to read a pro-Muslim, anti-American sentiment into anything.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:05 am to imjustafatkid
So why not accept the statement from the complex on face value?
Where did the "because it offends Muslims" narrative get started anyway?
Where did the "because it offends Muslims" narrative get started anyway?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:06 am to thetempleowl
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thetempleowl
You should probably frequent other boards.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:07 am to boosiebadazz
It's interesting how quickly some folks will call someone a liar if it doesn't fit their narrative. What proof do we have that Mr. Tran is lying?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:09 am to GRTiger
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frick man, we get it. You think he is lying. It's not a bad guess, but you went from suspicious to absolutely certain in about 3 minutes.
Honestly, this seems to be the best guess as far as the truth. The guy told a very one sided part of the discussion with the whole scares muslims thing thrown in their by himself.
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If the manager is a Muslim, I could see him/her saying something stupid like "As a Muslim and former Iranian citizen, this offends me" and he repeated it the way he did.
First off, many of the muslims I know who live in this country after coming from someplace else are extremely proud to be an american.
Second off, the apartment complex, as stated, displays a large american flag right at their entrance. And since this apartment complex is in texas, they almost just as certainly display the texas state flag as well.
So, tell me, if they themselves display an american flag, do you think they actually have a problem with the flag being displayed? Seriously?
People on this board are so desperate to believe they are being wronged they defy logic sometimes.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:10 am to imjustafatkid
The apartment complex offered a completely reasonable explanation for their request for him to take the flag down. I've seen clauses like that in many leases.
Mr. Tran offered the less likely explanation that "it offends Muslims".
On face value, I'm siding with the complex simply because it seems more plausible and I've seen similar leases before.
But like I said, if you want to read an "omg America is doomed, we can't even fly our own flag anymore because of political correctness" narrative into this, you certainly will.
Mr. Tran offered the less likely explanation that "it offends Muslims".
On face value, I'm siding with the complex simply because it seems more plausible and I've seen similar leases before.
But like I said, if you want to read an "omg America is doomed, we can't even fly our own flag anymore because of political correctness" narrative into this, you certainly will.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:15 am to thetempleowl
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Honestly, this seems to be the best guess as far as the truth.
Based on what? We have one side of the story based on the conversation Mr. Tran had with the apartment complexes representative. We don't have a statement from that representative.
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many of the muslims I know who live in this country after coming from someplace else are extremely proud to be an american
Do you know all Muslims in the US? Would you say all Muslims are proud to be in the US? Do you think any Muslims in this country hate the US? Is it possible for someone living in the US to still hate the country? Do US citizens of any kind ever do things that may appear hateful toward this country?
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So, tell me, if they themselves display an american flag, do you think they actually have a problem with the flag being displayed? Seriously?
The article also states other tenants have patriotic displays. Maybe they thought the size and placement of the flag was threatening? I can't really explain someone else's thought process.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 10:17 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:16 am to thetempleowl
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So, tell me, if they themselves display an american flag, do you think they actually have a problem with the flag being displayed? Seriously?
No, I am sure the apartment complex doesn't have a problem. But the people who wrote that statement probably weren't the ones who talked to him about the flag.
I'll just concede. The guy is probably...no that implies the possibility that he isn't...he's 100% a liar and this is all to get media attention. No use discussing it, even at a philosophical level.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:18 am to GRTiger
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I'll just concede. The guy is probably...no that implies the possibility that he isn't...he's 100% a liar and this is all to get media attention. No use discussing it, even at a philosophical level.
This is probably the case. Still seems odd so many people who are always so quick not to believe businesses are so quick to believe the business in this case.
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