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Another Soros-type figure in Texas: Laura and John Arnold, oil billionaires

Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:30 pm
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Started at Enron. More billionaire left wingers funding causes to shut down the economy AFTER they made their billions, just to make themselves feel better.


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In 2002, he founded Centaurus Advisors with $8 million—his last Enron bonus, paid out just days before the company filed for bankruptcy—in Houston, Texas, to invest in futures, options, and derivatives for coal, natural gas, and crude oil. Centaurus entered the public eye in 2006 when Arnold bet against the enormous hedge fund Amaranth Advisors, which predicted that natural gas prices would rise and lost $5 billion when the market proved otherwise. At its peak Centaurus managed some $6 billion before Arnold closed the fund and retired in 2012 at the age of 38, establishing the Laura and John Arnold Foundation with his wife—a former oil executive—soon after. His estimated net worth is $3.3 billion as of writing.



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Much of the Arnolds’ philanthropy has funded causes favored by the Left, such as ranked-choice voting, litigation against supposed Republican gerrymandering in congressional maps, and the eco-Right, groups infiltrating the conservative movement with a left-wing global-warming agenda. They have personally donated to numerous Democratic campaigns, the Democratic Party’s leading congressional political action committee (House Majority PAC), and both of Barack Obama’s presidential campaigns.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:31 pm to
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is last Enron bonus, paid out just days before the company filed for bankruptcy


Odd the trustee didn't claw this back
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Odd the trustee didn't claw this back


It's possible his cooperation was rewarded in the eventual investigations.

I don't know much about trading at that level, but wasn't enron claiming a lot of natural gas assets that didn't actually exist?
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted by TigerB8
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:44 pm to
He's probably buddies with Andrew Weissmann and he let him keep it in a sweetheart deal. This is just speculation on my behalf, of course. Andrew oversaw the prosecution of that enron bull.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:51 pm to
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Odd the trustee didn't claw this back


The executives and the accounting firm went down.

Posted by dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:52 pm to
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litigation against supposed Republican gerrymandering in congressional maps,


Always bad when someone else does it
Posted by Speckhunter2012
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:56 pm to
She's got crazy eyes much like that singing communist they tried to appoint to the Ministry of Propaganda and Left-Wing Censorship that luckily failed bigly.

She looks like she would be ecstatic to turn TX into the next California.

At age 28 he was an Enron Exec making an 8 Million Bonus just before the company went under? Ok. Hmmm....
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:41 pm to


I think I know which one wears the strap on in this relationship.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:45 pm to
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funding causes to shut down the economy AFTER they made their billions, just to make themselves feel better.
They got theirs and they don't want anyone else to get their own.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:50 pm to
John Arnold is perhaps the greatest natty gas trader that ever lived.

I'm sure in MAGA world some of what he supports is going to be "left wing" but in the non-insane world he's viewed as a smart, thoughtful person.

And, who are any of you to question a man who's made millions? People wealthier than you are beyond reproach (unless, of course, you somehow accumulate more cash than them)!
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 3:52 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:58 pm to
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I'm sure in MAGA world some of what he supports is going to be "left wing" but in the non-insane world he's viewed as a smart, thoughtful person.


Supporting climate change regulations to an administration that goes out of its way to block and destroy LNG product movement seems hypocritical for a former natural gas trader, no?


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And, who are any of you to question a man who's made millions? 


Bernie Madoff was a billionaire

Harvey Weinstein was a billionaire


George Soros is a billionaire



This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 4:03 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Supporting climate change regulations to an administration that goes out of its way to block and destroy LNG product movement seems hypocritical for a former natural gas trader, no?


I don't think Arnold is just supporting climate change regulations generally. I would guess he is advocating for a transition path, involving fossil fuels through that time, plus CCS (like xom and cvx). I know for a fact he is actively investing in O&G through a private credit group headed by former EIG execs.

To say this guy is a "soros type" completely undermines the OP and his link.
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 4:18 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:16 pm to
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Bernie Madoff was a billionaire


Fake billionaires don't count.

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Harvey Weinstein was a billionaire


Not a billy.

I was making a joke as a person's wealth has been used to defend them from any criticism (Musk, Trump).
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:38 am to
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Odd the trustee didn't claw this back


What is really odd is that all of the ENRON convictions, except 1, were overturned.

Why did the gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooberment cause the collapse?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:56 am to
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People wealthier than you are beyond reproach (unless, of course, you somehow accumulate more cash than them)

Are you kidding? What if two people wealthier than us disagree? They are both right?
Posted by jrobic4
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:52 am to
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would guess he is advocating for a transition path, involving fossil fuels


He will invest in whatever gets himself money and more control
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:54 am to
One of the sharpest guys to ever work for me
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:58 am to
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nd, who are any of you to question a man who's made millions? People wealthier than you are beyond reproach (unless, of course, you somehow accumulate more cash than them)!
wow! What a perspective

You think rich people never do wrong?!?!? It’s much more likely he has all that money bc he’s a corrupt POS than some altruistic do gooder whos never cut a corner


The incredible nativity in that comment disqualifies most everything else you say
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:05 am to
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One of the sharpest guys to ever work for me


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Lou Pai


The stripper master
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6511 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:39 am to
Why is it that hedge funds are filled with C#nt$ like this?
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