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re: America's Brutal Culture Wars Caused by 'The Return of the Gods'

Posted on 5/5/24 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 12:45 pm to
So you’re senile?
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:07 pm to
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RETURN OF THE GODS

In his book The Return of the Gods, Cahn says Western civilization was in many ways set free from these dark spiritual principalities and became a house set in order, a civilization cleansed.

But the spirits still existed outside the borders of that civilization. As scripture states, they roamed the dry places, the desolate lands, they dwelled in the shadows. The only way these dominant evil spirits could come back or return to Western civilization is if the people turned away from God.

Unfortunately, people did turn away from the one true God and the dark gods returned, but they came back in disguise. They came as spirits of enlightenment, freedom, and power. Cahn says today these gods inhabit our institutions, walk the halls of our governments, cast votes in legislatures, guide corporations, and teach in our universities.


One of the first things that comes to mind:

Matthew 12:43–45 (NASB95):

43?“Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.
44 “Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order.
45 “Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation.”

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58120 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:34 pm to
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This is really simple. You either believe in Jesus Christ, as your savior, or you don't. There is no middle ground. The rules of the game are clearly defined in the Real Book, there is no other book. Only Faith will save you.



Are you saying a person who is Jew in their ethnicity is incapable of having saving faith in Jesus?
FYI, almost all of the early church believers were Jewish converts.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58947 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:36 pm to
I don’t think he knows what he’s saying to be honest.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 2:14 pm to
So you think people are not retarded enough to throw away their culture on their own? It needs to be evil spirits?

Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58906 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:24 pm to
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Are you saying a person who is Jew in their ethnicity is incapable of having saving faith in Jesus? FYI, almost all of the early church believers were Jewish converts.


That would basically include all of the disciples and apostles who were Jews, including Paul who hunted Christians as a very devout Jew, right up until he encountered the risen Lord himself. Game changer.

Jesus came to the Jews first and then the Gentiles. He fulfilled all of the prophesy they were well familiar with in front of their very eyes. Most rejected Him because of the reasons people reject Him today, as well as their need for their traditions they had made up, but thought it counted as righteousness to their salvation because that’s what they were being told, but there was a remnant who chose the narrow road, and that came at a price, and they were heavily persecuted, but Christ in their hearts was stronger. We know who Jesus is today and are saved by believing upon their testimony, the testimony of people who believed unto death.


Posted by mtopdawg421
Middle GA
Member since Aug 2017
985 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:32 pm to
I've listened to the Audio Book for Return of the Gods.
Great piece and honestly, yeah makes a lot of sense and explains the spiraling downfall we are seeing in real time in the country.
This is a spiritual war. Always has been. Now we're seeing it up close and in the open.

To the naysayers, I advise you to pick up the Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

Because there are only two real choices: You either follow Jesus Christ, or you don't.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99192 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:42 pm to
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Not reading any of that.

Nobody’s making you.


Chicken won’t pay me my monthly bonus if I don’t.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 6:56 pm to
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Johnathan Cahn is a Messianic Jew

Interesting

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three evil spirits worshipped by ancient civilizations

Interesting

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When judgment came to Israel, the first strike came in 605 BC when the armies of Babylon invaded the land.

Not good. Israel had already been destroyed by Assyria and the land was an Assyrian province.

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the greater shakings came in 586 BC

Ahh yes, the year Judah (not Israel) got the arse beating of a lifetime, when Babylon destroyed their temple in Jerusalem (the city named after “Shalayim” the Canaanite sunset god).

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Psalms calls this form of idolatry a "trap". He says these "gods" are still around and they've invaded the U.S. on a spiritual level.

Yes, the psalms and the entire Bible go on and on about all the gods that exist and that they shouldn’t be worshipped. Why does the author use quotes around gods? There were no quotation marks in Hebrew nor Greek. Gods were gods. The Bible says there are many. At least 70 main gods, plus the Father El Elyon (God most High) and the Mother goddess Asherah (the Holy Spirit).

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In the days of the gods, which were dominant evil spirits, they reigned over tribes and nations, infused people with their evil, and mastered civilizations. Kings bowed to them, priests sang their praises, and altars were built in their honor. They were worshipped and dreaded.

Bravo. Deuteronomy 32:8-9. They were dreaded in the same way the Israelites and Judahites feared their god Yahweh.

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63603 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 6:59 pm to
I had to take a break as soon as I saw “road to paganism. It’s all in your mind, I promise.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39524 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:01 pm to
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The US was and still is the primary target. Eventually you'll figure it out.

No it wasn’t. Covid was not a weapon to attack Trump. It was an accidental leak of a Chinese bioweapon that was developed using US taxpayer money as directed by Fauci. Once leaked Pelosi weaponized it by out maneuvering Trump as she consistently did throughout his presidency.

One day the rest of you will look back and admit that Nancy Pelosi was one of the top political operatives of her generation and that she ran circles around Trump.
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2722 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:02 pm to
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accidental


Accidental? WTF are you smoking?

There is a wide gap between accidental and intentionally.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1815 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:07 pm to
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He argues that the gods or spirits that have returned to America and Western civilization are the same gods that seduced ancient Israel. He points out the following demonic spirits are the three most prominent gods that transformed ancient Israel and led to their fall from God

Ok let’s see what he has to say.

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1. The Possessor – Baal represented the nation's turning away from God

This is wrong. Baal was originally Yahweh. Yahweh was Baal. The priests in Jerusalem and Ezra and the scribes copied all the poems about how Baal killed Leviathan and Baal rides the clouds and hurls lightning bolts and makes it rain and helps the barley harvest and how Baal was the son of El Elyon. In the book of Samuel, David’s army breaks through the enemy lines with the help of Yahweh, and he names the place Baal Perazim (Baal breaks through).

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2. The Enchantress – Also known as Mrs. Baal, this spirit is referenced in the book of Judges. The two gods Baal and Ashtoreth or Ishtar are linked together.

The Bible makes many mentions of the Queen of Heaven, also called Wisdom, transliterated Asherah. Poems and graffiti and statues were found all throughout Judah and Israel praising “Yahweh and his Asherah” even to about 100BCE. This divine feminine became known as the Holy Spirit - both represented by the dove.

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3. The Destroyer – The most mysterious member of the dark trinity is known as Molech. His name makes several appearances in scripture. For example, when King Solomon fell away from God, he built high places, altars, and sanctuaries for the foreign gods. One of them was Molech. He was the god associated with sacrifice of human beings, especially children by their parents.

No, no, no. There was no god named Molech. The ammonite god was named Milcom. Molech, a related word but different, was not a proper noun, but was a type of infant sacrifice and would be offered up to a god like Milcom, Dagan, Chemosh, or the big guy Yahweh. This is confirmed by ancient writing and carvings mentioning offering their Molech sacrifices to Baal (Yahweh).

So this guy actually acknowledges that the Bible recognizes many gods. But he shits the bed with the rest of his assertions and beliefs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261110 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:09 pm to
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'The Return of the Gods'



I'm ready for some good apocalyptic action.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58120 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:27 pm to
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One day the rest of you will look back and admit that Nancy Pelosi was one of the top political operatives of her generation and that she ran circles around Trump.



Should evil people be lauded for their ability to accomplish evil deeds above all others?
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8031 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:29 pm to
The church I go to from time to time has this as his sermon just about every Sunday. He doesn’t read from notes but straight from the Bible. And he will tell you “ you may be offended” as he starts every Sunday.
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
649 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:33 pm to
Nope, not saying that at all, but if you're still waiting for the Messiah, you obviously don't believe that Jesus Christ is the savior.
Anybody, of any religion, can be saved at anytime, the catch is, you to have total faith in Jesus Christ, that's the only way.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1815 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:37 pm to
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By Faith alone is the only way to Heaven.


If you just have to believe, why is it so difficult to go through the narrow gate of Matthew 7:13?
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“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.


Why does Jesus talk about only those who DO the WILL of the father will enter heaven? Matthew 7:21
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“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.


“Paul” says to do works for the Lord in Colossians 3:23…
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Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men,


If your response is Ephesians 2:8-9, I’d say read the very next verse.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12569 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:41 pm to
It’s all caused by the shite fricking media. ALL of IT.
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
649 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:48 pm to
Mo Jeaux, don't worry about all this BS, its above your intellect anyhow. You're gonna need the Hubble Space Telescope to see the Gates of Heaven.
But even for you, you have a chance, all you need is Faith, lots of Faith.
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