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America Is Full Of Deviants. Maybe We Really Shouldn't Have Tossed Out Sexual Morality

Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:59 pm
I will get downvoted by the purist libertarians here, but this article from ben shapiro's site resonates with me.

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Hollywood, D.C., academia. Chock full of perverts, it seems. We can’t forget the church, of course. And not just the Catholic Church. Protestants have a sex abuse problem as bad or worse.

Where can a person go to get away from these deviants? Certainly not to the doctor. Physician sexual abuse is widespread, including the recent high profile cases involving Olympic gymnasts molested by a team doctor. Possibly the worst serial pedophile in American history was a pediatrician who went to jail a few years ago for abusing over 100 young patients.

What’s left? What’s the next profession to be revealed as a breeding ground for rapists? Electricians? Dog groomers?

This stuff is everywhere. It really can’t be broken down on political, or religious, or even gender grounds. Men seem more likely to be the abuser, but the problem is not exclusive to them. Though we tend to brush these kinds of cases to the side, the fact remains that an enormous number of female teachers have been found guilty of sexually harassing or assaulting their pubescent male students. Any attempt to place the blame on one particular group falls apart. The crisis it too widespread. It encompasses too many different types of people. It has leaked into too many corners of our society.


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It appears that there’s a serious problem with our culture as a whole. Of course, the first problem with our culture is the same with every culture: we are a fallen and sinful species. But our fallen and sinful nature seems to be manifesting itself more and more in the form of degeneracy and sexual predation. Why?


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Well, perhaps we should consider the possibility that the Sexual Revolution was a catastrophic failure. It probably is not a coincidence that the vanguards of the revolution — Hollywood and academia — harbor the highest level of deviants. It also is probably not a coincidence that the male-on-male rape epidemic in the Church began in the '60’s, precisely when the leadership of the Church, especially in the United States, decided to adopt a more enlightened and culturally acceptable view of sexuality. They loosened the rules a bit, started being more tolerant, and almost instantly their ranks were filled with boy-raping men.

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Maybe we ought to consider adopting again some semblance of sexual morality in our culture. Maybe it was not such a stellar idea to throw out every ethical rule governing sexual activity. Maybe we should think about reevaluating other things, too, like:

1) Our love of pornography.

2) Our belief that sexually-charged young people should wait until they’re 35 to get married and finally channel their sexual energies in a positive and procreative direction.

3) Our idiotic insistence that every single thing in society be co-ed, and that there ought to be no socially enforced codes of conduct governing how men and women interact with each other.

Maybe all of these ideas and strategies are terrible and have blown up in our faces in spectacular fashion. Maybe if you’re a proponent of the modern and liberal approach to sexuality, you are just simply wrong about everything.

Or maybe we should continue doing exactly what we’re doing, because it seems to be working out so well.



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Posted by Ole Misdial
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:03 pm to
It's all the gays fault
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:03 pm to
Demonic attacks
Posted by rpr4695
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

1) Our love of pornography.

2) Our belief that sexually-charged young people should wait until they’re 35 to get married and finally channel their sexual energies in a positive and procreative direction.

3) Our idiotic insistence that every single thing in society be co-ed, and that there ought to be no socially enforced codes of conduct governing how men and women interact with each other.

Maybe all of these ideas and strategies are terrible and have blown up in our faces in spectacular fashion. Maybe if you’re a proponent of the modern and liberal approach to sexuality, you are just simply wrong about everything.



All of these are valid points, but porn didn't make these people perverts and molesters. Maybe it exasperated a problem in people who were already bad people to begin with, but I disagree that it's a causing factor. Waiting for marriage didn't either.

These "Deviants" are all people in power who are just genuinely awful with no ethical compass. Not raping someone isn't hard. It just takes common sense to know that taking advantage of someone is wrong.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:05 pm to
Is it happening more?

Or we just more aware of it due to everyone having a voice these days?

I'd say the latter is the more likely scenario.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:08 pm to
Of course its happening more.
Posted by redandright
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:09 pm to
I'm going to need something more than that
Posted by Knight of Old
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Is it happening more?
Is what happening more? Dudes like CK not learning how to jack off in private?

Or does he just have a 'voice these days' and therefore is empowered to use it to ask so he can jerk off in front of others (behind a closed door, of course)?

Yeah, that seems like a 'more likely scenario'...
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:12 pm to
...wut
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Is it happening more?

Or we just more aware of it due to everyone having a voice these days?

I'd say the latter is the more likely scenario.



Look at the garbage H'Wood spews now. Even at the height of the film industry, those actors who led terrible private lives didn't insult their audience by making movies about it.

We know about it now, and so many are dazzled by these people, just because of their fame, that they do the old "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" thing.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:12 pm to
Our attitude about sex is certainly destroying the people of this country.
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:14 pm to
I watched his show right after Harvey came out and I think he's dead on. Hollywood has reduced sex to just a physical act with nothing attached, so why it should it surprise anyone that these people who glorify that industry abuse people sexually. After all it's just sex right?

They have cheapened it, and over exposed people to it. It's classic desensitization.
Posted by redandright
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:14 pm to
"hypocrisy is a tribute vice pays to virtue."
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Is it happening more?


One thing is happening a LOT more.
In the 1950s having an illegitimate child was a source of tremendous shame. Today it's the norm in democrat neighborhoods. And I'm expected to pay for the kid.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:17 pm to
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Today it's the norm in democrat neighborhoods.


Not just democrat neighborhoods.
Other neighhborhoods just have more money and more of support system.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:17 pm to
that is a completely different topic than the OP
Posted by ChewyDante
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

All of these are valid points, but porn didn't make these people perverts and molesters. Maybe it exasperated a problem in people who were already bad people to begin with, but I disagree that it's a causing factor. Waiting for marriage didn't either.


Porn as it exists in this country today has the effect of normalizing hypersexuality and deviant behaviors. Factor in that it is effectively universally available to children from a very young age and it's not rocket science that it has an impact on our culture, values, and behaviors. I'm not saying I have an answer but it's certainly not something that I have any question believing has had an unnatural effect on our collective psyche.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:19 pm to
Rod Dreher has written about this.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 2:20 pm to
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I will get downvoted by the purist libertarians here,


Thanks for saving me some time!
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