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AHCA Would Protect Only 5% of Those with Pre-Existing Conditions

Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:14 pm
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The Republican bill to repeal and replace Obamacare does not allocate nearly enough money to protect people with pre-existing health conditions from potentially higher insurance premiums, an analysis finds.

The bill's $23 billion in funding specifically for such people would cover just 110,000 Americans, according to the Avalere Health study released Thursday.

That's only 5 percent of the 2.2 million current enrollees in the individual insurance market with some type of pre-existing chronic condition.

And even if states were to add in all the other money in the bill's $100 billion Patient and State Stability Fund, only a total of 600,000 people with pre-exisiting conditions could be covered, the study found.


This bill kills people.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:15 pm to
No graph no care.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

This bill kills people.


type 2 diabetes is a pre-existing condition.

Those people gave themselves type 2 diabetes.

They killed themselves.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
LOLMELT
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

according to the Avalere Health


Who?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24719 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

BamaAtl


Start a go-fund-me for each of those people.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
Do you fall into that group you are concerned for?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

This bill kills people.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13080 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
It doesn't matter. The House bill is DOA in the US Senate. It has ZERO chance of passing in any form near what the House is voting on today.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11960 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
The Left loves to drama queen, don't they folks
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
All of these factors are why it won't pass the Senate.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:18 pm to
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That's only 5 percent of the 2.2 million current enrollees in the individual insurance market with some type of pre-existing chronic condition.


To be fair. Doesn't this new bill say something about not allowing people with current coverage to be kicked off their insurance. Those people should be ok as long as they are able to keep the coverage after the massive increases in premiums they will see if this is passed.

Kids born 3 months from now with Type 1 diabetes are screwed though.

Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11960 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

It doesn't matter. The House bill is DOA in the US Senate. It has ZERO chance of passing in any form near what the House is voting on today.

This is the go to talking point of the Left today. Right on cue folks.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71594 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:20 pm to
What is the effect on vehicle registration?

Also, why no sweet charts?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Those people gave themselves type 2 diabetes.


this is simply not true. Yes, 80% of type 2 diabetes are fatties but not the other 20% are normal or underweight.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Those people gave themselves type 2 diabetes.

this is simply not true. Yes, 80% of type 2 diabetes are fatties but not the other 20% are normal or underweight.




being obese isnt the only way to get type 2 diabetes you fricking imbecile.

in fact, type 2 diabetes is ONLY contracted through your diet and actions.

fail again, you liberal fricking moron.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

The House bill is DOA in the US Senate. It has ZERO chance of passing in any form near what the House is voting on today.


Never, ever, ever, ever assume that Republicans will do what's in their constituents' best interests rather than their lobbyists.

And their lobbyists want their sweet, sweet tax breaks.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
How about Type 1? That's what my son has and he did nothing to get it nor could it have been prevented. He essentially has no pancreatic function.

That said, the bill is still a step in the right direction by allowing more flexibility with how states set up HC plans and allowing more market based solutions. The problem I have is his Humalog insulin used to be $17/bottle when it came out 22 years ago and is now $250. I can accept paying more for HC because of my son but I don't appreciate getting bent over.

Of course neither this bill nor OCare fix the issues because both are still too focused on coverage rather than costs. Focus on reducing costs through competition and creativity and it makes the coverage issue far less. The reason coverage is a problem is the cost of the insurance and HC is inflated due to regulation.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
good, fuggem

if god wanted them to live he wouldn't have given them that heart condition
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

To be fair. Doesn't this new bill say something about not allowing people with current coverage to be kicked off their insurance. Those people should be ok as long as they are able to keep the coverage after the massive increases in premiums they will see if this is passed.


Until the EHB waivers kick in and plans adapt to price the chronically ill out of existing plans, sure.
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