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re: AG Sessions: "We plan to develop policies to increase forfeitures."
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:11 pm to Pocket Kingz
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:11 pm to Pocket Kingz
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Demonizing the media as a pre emptive strike to pave the way for this administration to have less obstacles for their facist agenda
oh wow
i was going to go point by point of your post but there is no need after reading that
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:13 pm to SidewalkDawg
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So what you're saying is that we have too many laws?
that's a big "no shite"
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We should still be lobbying congress to change the laws we don't like.
i don't disagree but the real meat and potatoes are the regs, because the Congressional laws are over broad and are written to give the real authority to the executive agencies (which Trump controls). while it's an idealized goal, we'd have to literally reconstruct our entire federal system to make that change mean anything
Trump has no problem attacking all sorts of economic and environmental regs, but his AG is pushing for MORE criminal ones
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:15 pm to hawkeye007
quote:Yes I do know him personally. He was good friends with my grandfather and even gave the eulogy when he passed. He is a great man.
do you know him personally?
I dont agree with all of his political views, but I wont hate a man for it
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Trump has no problem attacking all sorts of economic and environmental regs, but his AG is pushing for MORE criminal ones
He did run as the "Law and Order" candidate. The unfortunate side effect of this is that his AG will side with law enforcement agencies.
We still have a problem in this country of militarized police and heavy handed tactics, people seem to have forgotten this in the BLM era.
What recourse do we have as citizens outside of electing officials that represent our views and lobbying them when we can?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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oh wow i was going to go point by point of your post but there is no need after reading that
I have read enough of your posts to know that I respect your opinion.
While you may not respect mine; you could actually post a response in lieu of sarcasm and condescension. You know, that thing that "liberals" are accused of ad nauseum on this board.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:20 pm to Iosh
Don't they already have this ? I seen on PD live where they talked about talking a drug dealers 4K dollars in his pockets when they busted him selling drugs .
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:27 pm to Pocket Kingz
Trump isn't creating a fascist state, bro
1. he did run on "draining the Swamp". he ran as a populist, anti-insider candidate. Obama ran as an anti-gay marriage candidate. both lied. that's what politicians do in elections. also, Sessions is the one insider Trump truly relied on and that debt had to be repaid. Trump doesn't win without Sessions
2. one bombing in Syria isn't shite, and many Trumpkins were pissed that he did just that. the KSA arms deal was an Obama policy that Trump couldn't really even stop. we are bound to KSA, for better or worse. that's beyond Trump, Clinton, Obama, or even "the elite"
3. the immigration issue/system was a mess before Trump and is a mess today. he hasn't even really done that much. the immigration issue is on the same level as "draining the swamp" in terms of unfulfilled campaign promises
4. simply ridiculous from almost every angle. i could do an entire thread on this false premise
5. these policies are unpopular (just read this thread), even with Trumpkins. this is just the price he has to pay for Sessions' help. these policies basically fly in the face of everything else that Trump is doing. they're obviously an outlier and obviously tied to somebody other than Trump (to quote Bill Clinton, "it's Jeff Sessions, stupid")
and i say all of this as a non-Trumpkin who didn't vote for Trump and don't particularly like him as a politician (as a political figure i can tolerate/appreciate him in some areas). i also openly hate Jeff Sessions and have for a long, long time. that hate has been public
1. he did run on "draining the Swamp". he ran as a populist, anti-insider candidate. Obama ran as an anti-gay marriage candidate. both lied. that's what politicians do in elections. also, Sessions is the one insider Trump truly relied on and that debt had to be repaid. Trump doesn't win without Sessions
2. one bombing in Syria isn't shite, and many Trumpkins were pissed that he did just that. the KSA arms deal was an Obama policy that Trump couldn't really even stop. we are bound to KSA, for better or worse. that's beyond Trump, Clinton, Obama, or even "the elite"
3. the immigration issue/system was a mess before Trump and is a mess today. he hasn't even really done that much. the immigration issue is on the same level as "draining the swamp" in terms of unfulfilled campaign promises
4. simply ridiculous from almost every angle. i could do an entire thread on this false premise
5. these policies are unpopular (just read this thread), even with Trumpkins. this is just the price he has to pay for Sessions' help. these policies basically fly in the face of everything else that Trump is doing. they're obviously an outlier and obviously tied to somebody other than Trump (to quote Bill Clinton, "it's Jeff Sessions, stupid")
and i say all of this as a non-Trumpkin who didn't vote for Trump and don't particularly like him as a politician (as a political figure i can tolerate/appreciate him in some areas). i also openly hate Jeff Sessions and have for a long, long time. that hate has been public
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:28 pm to OMLandshark
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I thought it was impossible to have a worse Attorney General than Eric Holder. I was wrong.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Fascism is the left's new buzzword just as socialist was the right's buzzword for Obama.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:37 pm to boosiebadazz
one is much more true than the other, though
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Neither Trump nor Obama did or plan to take over the means of production so they're both inaccurate. However, they do make for scary stories and headlines.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:45 pm to boosiebadazz
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Neither Trump nor Obama did or plan to take over the means of production
i mean Obama did enact a federal takeover over 1/6 of the US economy with the ACA. that fulfills both "takeover" and "taking" required of socialism. that's just one example but it's going to be very hard to come up with a similar comparison for Trump's fascism
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
Federal regulations written by the companies themselves. See bamarep's thread on the stock prices if you think this was anything other than "please, oh please don't throw me in that there briar patch"
Trump's nationalism is about as close to fascism as the insurance lobby writing the ACA is to socialism.
Trump's nationalism is about as close to fascism as the insurance lobby writing the ACA is to socialism.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:50 pm to boosiebadazz
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Federal regulations written by the companies themselves.
that's literally irrelevant
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Trump's nationalism is about as close to fascism as the insurance lobby writing the ACA is to socialism.
"nationalism" is nothing more than a word
until that is turned into a tactile policy, it has no power over other people. the ACA created a power play over 330M americans
"nationalism" is like Obama's rhetoric about health care reform prior to any actual policy being implemented
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:53 pm to Iosh
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Goddamn, that's straight up full blown DARE shill. You could legit make a case that sessions is a time traveler from the Nixon or Reagan era where insane statements like this wouldn't get a bat of an eye.
If not for immigration, Sessions would even more terrible than Holder and Lynch ever was and that was supposed to be a bar that's impossible to reach.
He's easily the worst hire Trump has ever made.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:00 pm to The Egg
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i think it's insane that some will excuse the AG's decisions because he was trump's pick for ag.
I just read this entire thread and this is false.
Not even r/The_Donald is giving him much airtime and praise and if there is, its benign and tepid.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:02 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Why the hell did Trump pick Sessions?
Campaign debt and a favor returned in exchange for southern support and a breach into the mainstream GOP.
Sessions was the first senator to support Trump and that was pretty much a watershed moment where Trump became "real" and had staying power.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:10 pm to el Gaucho
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All of you people talk about how you don't like democrats but when it comes down to arresting them for doing drugs y'all get all sensitive
That's because most people are fans of liberty.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Federal regulations written by the companies themselves.
that's literally irrelevant
How could that be?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:30 pm to Iosh
Why does thIs man want people's pot and stuff?
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