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Affirmative Action is reparations

Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:59 pm
It is amazing that all the people who want reparations for Blacks forget to mention that for the past 50 years Blacks have benefited from Affirmative Action and diversity outreach programs to make up for the way they were treated in the past. How convenient.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20389 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:01 pm to
But that ain’t cold, hard cash bruh. Only cash can erase the sins of the white man!
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:09 pm to
Suppose you were captured in West Africa by a rival tribe. Then you are given two choices: 1) you and generations of your offspring would be slaves to the rival tribe, or 2) you are sold to the white man, taken to a different continent, and after a few generations, your offspring would be privileged citizens of the greatest nation in the world, complete with BET, a Miss Black USA contest, the Great Society programs, affirmative Action, etc. Which would you choose?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61297 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Affirmative Action is reparations
frick Affirmative Action. I need dolla bills, yall.

The Kinsey Report: Poor Man's Relief (youtube)
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37526 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:16 pm to
Affirmative actions still benefit ambitious/higher performing individuals disproportionately compared to high school drop outs.

Affirmative action guarantees increased opportunities and easier barriers to entry. Reparations people want guaranteed outcomes
Posted by RebelAggieDad
house
Member since Jun 2009
397 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:24 pm to
LOL, don't count on cold hard cash resolving the issue...
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Then you are given two choices: 1) you and generations of your offspring would be slaves to the rival tribe, or 2) you are sold to the white man, taken to a different continent, and after a few generations, your offspring would be privileged citizens of the greatest nation in the world, complete with BET, a Miss Black USA contest, the Great Society programs, affirmative Action, etc. Which would you choose?


You wouldn't be given a choice.

And African warlords didnt care about what happened to slaves, they just wanted the gold (or whatever other materials they needed to trade for).

The narrative that the slaves predecessors benefitted is a hindsight extrapolation based on societal changes that weren't the norm (even for Western countries) for hundreds of years after the fact.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42602 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:53 pm to
I'm no student of the subject but the only slave captors I know of were blacks in rival tribes.

Are there any significant incidences of white men plunging thru the jungle capturing blacks for slavery??

I's sure there must have been some limited raids of this sort, but was it at all significant in the magnitude of the slave trade.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19702 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Suppose you were captured in West Africa by a rival tribe. Then you are given two choices: 1) you and generations of your offspring would be slaves to the rival tribe, or 2) you are sold to the white man, taken to a different continent, and after a few generations, your offspring would be privileged citizens of the greatest nation in the world, complete with BET, a Miss Black USA contest, the Great Society programs, affirmative Action, etc. Which would you choose?
of all the various options that could happen to you as a West African prisoner of war during the times of the Atlantic slave trade, making it to the us was the only one you were likely to survive. If you didn't sell the tribe that captured you would just kill you. If you did sell, you most likely were going to end up in Brazil or the carribean if you survived the trip, where your life expectancy on average was a few months to a few years. Of the nearly 11 million slaves that survived the Atlantic crossing the us only received a little over 300000 slaves across all the centuries the slave trade was active. The number of slaves in the us grew to over 4 million by the civil war, because treatment of slaves in the us was comparatively gentle and slave populations grew without the need for importation. Not saying being a slave was a barrel of laughs but you most likely would live, have kids, etc. In the Portuguese colonies and the French and British plantations, you got worked to death in a matter of months.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:40 pm to
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I's sure there must have been some limited raids of this sort, but was it at all significant in the magnitude of the slave trade. 


The only time slave raids became a major concern was when the British decided to declare ban Transatlantic Slave trade. This isnt to say there weren't African Warlords in those incidences either. Just that slavers were more desperate since they now faced British blockades.

The other thing to consider is that slavery in Africa worked differently than most European countries. Debt slavery and their version of indentured servitude was very common. The European s had a Similar model but later abandoned it for a racial hegemony.

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Systems of servitude and slavery were common in parts of Africa, as they were in much of the ancient world. In many African societies where slavery was prevalent, the enslaved people were not treated as chattel slaves and were given certain rights in a system similar to indentured servitude elsewhere in the world. When the Arab slave trade and Atlantic slave trade began, many of the local slave systems began supplying captives for slave markets outside Africa.[1]

Slavery in historical Africa was practiced in many different forms: Debt slavery, enslavement of war captives, military slavery,slavery for prostitution and criminal slavery were all practiced in various parts of Africa.[2] Slavery for domestic and court purposes was widespread throughout Africa. Plantation slavery also occurred primarily on the eastern coast of Africa and in parts of West Africa. The importance of domestic plantation slavery increased during the 19th century due to the abolition of the Atlantic slave trade. Many African states dependent on the international slave trade reoriented their economies towards legitimate commerce worked by slave labor.[3]




Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:43 pm to
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But that ain’t cold, hard cash bruh
In a great many cases, it is literally, cold hard cash.

Every time 3 white dude's didn't get a scholarship that they would have gotten based on all criteria other than race, that was a direct transfer of $$$ from the white dudes to the black dudes that got the schollies.

Same for jobs. Same for business minority set asides. And the list goes on...….
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20228 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:56 pm to
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But that ain’t cold, hard cash bruh. Only cash can erase the sins of the white man!


Nope, unfortunately you are incorrect as specifically the blacks who push this agenda will never look past the "sins of the white man". They will always claim victim status to keep the gravy train up and running.

I truly hate it for those blacks who don't subscribe to this continuous victimhood status and do things the right way as they will seldom get a fair shake in the public discourse and in the media. Just as there is an element of whites who make me cringe when they get the exposure they get. It is very frustrating to feel you are generally getting lumped into a group which you want no part of by things totally out of your control.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18310 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:00 pm to
White women are the main beneficiaries of AA. My only position is if US does this then every recipient needs to deport themselves out of America. To not do that would be hypocritical.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:00 pm to
There's also the gift of living in a society capable of space travel, where nobody starves, etc.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:07 pm to
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Same for jobs. Same for business minority set asides. And the list goes on...….


I have mixed views on this. On one hand , you're right in that race should never be considered.

On the other hand, it would be incorrect to say that until 1965 (and that's being conservative) the US did use racial profiling for all the things that you stated. And yet were supposed to accept it and pretend it didnt play a role in modern day problems.

We cant change the past, but we can do better in the present. My only suggestion is to create a blind admission system where sex/race are all removed.

The other fact is that women will effectively make the majority of our educated white collar workforce for the same reasons you imply above. Some women have earned it, others not so much because of corporate meddling.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15083 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:16 pm to
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Only cash can erase the sins of the white man!

Ok, I'll give fifty bucks.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49341 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:36 pm to
Affirmative Action doesn't buy guns and crack bra!
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:07 pm to
During the Judiciary Committee hearings this week the woman who called Republicans the devil brought up affirmative action. She claimed that because blacks were not as prepared to take advantage of affirmative action that white women were the only ones to benefit.

I think that woman is wrong and a moron but that’s what was said in the first committee meeting with the goal of forming a commission to study reparations.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49341 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:34 pm to
Fauxcahontas stole the reparations!
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40182 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:53 pm to
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Affirmative Action is reparations



And it's past time we quit paying them. End all affirmative action now!
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