re: A list of the 54 Texas Democrats who shot down citizen-only voting rights

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You can try to spin this any complicated way you want, the fact is they are not legal and should not vote.

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For goodness sake, I have nothing about extending any franchise to ILLEGAL residents.

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So, you have no answer either?

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Citizenship is the answer but you refuse to except it, why?

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Citizenship is the answer but you refuse to except it, why?

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Because it is a tautology. (“Citizenship should be required to vote locally because citizenship should be ….”)

You have not provided any logical basis for such a policy.

You are saying “just because …”

Just trying to understand, I can be a citizen of china, come to the USA, rent a room, go to the grocery store and should be able to vote on all elections?

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Just trying to understand, I can be a citizen of china, come to the USA, rent a room, go to the grocery store and should be able to vote on all elections?

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If that is your understanding of this discussion, you are simply too stupid to deserve a substantive reply.

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Explain the logic

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trying to explain logic to a hard core left wing radical is aan exercise in futility, if not a contradiction in terms.

You know the reasons why it is a bad idea - and you know the reason left wing radicals want it so much.

In short - it is just another pile of names that can be used for 'ballot' purposes - and if not by outlright cheating, then as a pressure point for the next outrage about 'disadvantaged voters' or whatever bullshite rolls off the tongues on extreme leftists anytime they want to further muddle an issue.

You want this for the same reason you want more illegal aliens present in the county - to increase the pressure to 'take care of these poor souls' by 'at least' giving them the VOTE to 'determine their own future'

It is the holy grail - extend voting RIGHTS as much as possible - your leaders want it to be lowered to 16 years old, let illegal aliens vote, let prisoners vote, let vagrants vote,

hell - let ANYONE vote if they are in a situation where they are easily misled, are without wisdom to evaluate cause/effect, unconcerned with who they hell is going to have to foot the bill for whatever they 'vote for' etc.

You know it - we know it - we know you know it - you are preaching to the uninformed, uncaring, irresponsible with your rhetoric.

shame on you.

edit - oh - and the clincher - you want more illiterate, irresponsible, dim-witted, parasitic, mentally deficient people represented on the voting rolls. That way your 'harvesters' have TARGETs of you 'harvesters' all bundled up in a group who normally dont even know what a "vote" actually means, could not care less if they did, and are willing to sell out their franchise for another swig of Mogen David.

u know it - we know it - we know u know it

stfu.

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Birthright Citizenship”

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There apparently arguments that refute your statements

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The arguments against birthright citizenship basically boil down to a claim that the word “person” does not mean “person,” but rather means “citizen.”

As a textualist, that argument entertains me. The “conservatives” suddenly agree with “liberal” schools of interpretation … when they produce a result that the “conservatives” like.

Again, I think birthright citizenship is atrocious policy. But no Textualist could argue with a straight face that it is not what the Constitution SAYS.

I mean there are some common sense solutions to make this a reasonable law without being over the top.

Local governments may institute their own policies regarding who is eligible to vote, but with certain common sense rules in place.

1) US citizens all have the right to vote in those elections as residents of said voting district. The only exception is if they forfeited that right such as by committing a felony.

2) Permanent Residents (Green Card holders) that obtained their status via legal entry into the US may be granted the right to vote in their district by that district's local government.

3) Anyone else that is either not a permanent resident (e.g. visiting/work/student visas) or anyone else that had entered the country illegally (i.e. even if they have permanent residence but cannot prove a legal entry into the country) will not be granted rights to vote in any district.

That is common sense. It rewards permanent members of the community that followed the law to a right in local elections (not for national elections), and prohibits others through the law.

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DEM leadership has 16 yrs old as their next step after allowing illegal aliens to vote.

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Do some Dems want to extend the franchise to 16yos? Sure. It would never pass, so who cares about the desires of a tiny minority of one party?