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re: 96% of British Muslims don't believe Al Queda behind 9-11 attacks

Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:15 pm to
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Why can't people just trust and believe what the mainstream media/government tells us to believe?


I've learned through experience that pretty much any controversial stance Rosie O'Donnell takes is going to be wrong (which includes her mind-numbingly ignorant statement about steel).
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:29 pm to
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her mind-numbingly ignorant statement about steel).
I agree.

But I believe Rosie's heart is in the right place. I also wonder why some people are so quick to jump on others simply for trying to find truth?
People get very angry when you don't follow along with the government/mainstream media's official story of 9-11.

The ironic part is that those same people are the ones screaming the loudest about government corruption and not trusting what the media tells us.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:33 pm to
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This board has been so ate up with the stupid lately that I can no longer tell the sarcasm and the trolls from the serious.


We're just making America great again. Please disembark the train to your left.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:11 pm to
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But I believe Rosie's heart is in the right place. I also wonder why some people are so quick to jump on others simply for trying to find truth?

People get very angry when you don't follow along with the government/mainstream media's official story of 9-11.


People get angry because of how the conspiracy theory forms. Instead of someone finding a tangent and following it to its most logical end we usually get "spokesmen" and "experts" who go into the scenario looking for a conspiracy to expose. They are starting at a preconceived conclusion and working backward to make evidence fit, doing just enough research to support their claim. The "jet fuel can't melt steel" belief is a great example of that.

Or they make insane jumps of logic by going from point A to point B to point ILSCYLKWNLI*@YPI@H)*&T@P:!@JN@ALIENS!!!!

With both of those, the answers can become so convoluted (even if true) that people either get too frustrated in trying to follow it or it sets off their bullshite detectors.

Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:13 pm to
There's a report coming out later this week stating muslims in Britain think Britain is 75% muslim country.
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:13 pm to
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The fire storm created by burning jet fuel and office supplies burning for as long as it did was more than enough to cause the steel to sufficiently weaken and buckle under the weight of the floors above.


There was no jet fuel in WTCB7.
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:20 pm to
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There was no jet fuel in WTCB7.


Lots of important documents were lost in that building too.

The weirdest part of the whole thing was that buildings fell straight down like a controlled demolition.

You'd think the top would get weakened and fall off to the side where the planes hit. Not the whole thing collapse straight down without falling to the side.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:44 pm to
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The weirdest part of the whole thing was that buildings fell straight down like a controlled demolition.


Not weird at all. What happened was very similar to what happens in a controlled demolition. Instead of explosives delivering a massive explosion to rend and tear the supporting metal structure, the jet fuel burned long and hot enough to *weaken the supports to the point where they snapped in a fashion close enough to the controlled demo method.

What followed then was as weight shifted and other weakened supports gave way, the compounding weight and the energy behind the momentum of the collapsing floors overwhelmed those parts of the structure that hadn't been damaged by the crash or burning fuel.

*(jet fuel burns anywhere from 800F-1500F, steel loses about 50% of its strength at 1100F)
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Jews didn't go to work that day, etc.



This is a lie. Dozens of Jews were killed that day. Know who wasn't...Muslims.

But by all means, please continue in delusion.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:31 pm to
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'll do realize that steel doesn't have to be hot enough to melt in order to fail, right?


You do realize a fricking commercial airline jet slamming into a building with no breaks would cause some issues. It's not like there was just a random fire.

Now did the government collapse the buildings to offset further uncontrollable damage? Very possible.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:02 pm to
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Know who wasn't...Muslims.


Except for the 60 that did.
Posted by Space Cowboy
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:20 pm to
96 percent of Muslims in the UK are jihadists in one form or another, and the other 4 percent are about as Muslim as the man in the moon is a Muslim. In other words, they are MUSLIM IN NAME ONLY apostates.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:23 pm to
The world average (from a 2008 poll) has less than 50% of people believing the official story.
Posted by Space Cowboy
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:25 pm to
I agree, but heat can and it doesn't have to be fully melted to cause the collapse of the building, it just has to be heated enough to weaken them.

Moreover, only complete and utter retards are dumb enough believe that there was some sort of conspiracy. It was a jihad attack, but nonetheless we are not at war with Islamic terrorists, but with the ideological force of Islam and all those that follow that ideological force of Islam, i.e., ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD.
Posted by Space Cowboy
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:26 pm to
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The world average (from a 2008 poll) has less than 50% of people believing the official story.


Okay I'll play. What's the alternative story?
Posted by Space Cowboy
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:19 pm to
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Israel gets unfettered military funding and support and therefore has no incentive to come to a two-state solution with Palestine.


Are you really that oblivious? Very apparently!

There never will be peace between Muslims and non-Muslim infidels until either all infidels have been conquered, killed, or converted to Islam or until the ideological force of Islam has been eradicated.

As the sole fundamental purpose of Islam to to make itself and its followers supreme throughout the world by conquering all non-Muslim infidels in the world via a jihad, which is a civilizational religious holy war waged preemptively by ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD without provocation and via any and all means, both violent and non-violent, at their disposal in the cause of Allah to ultimately make Islam and its followers supreme throughout the world.

Hence, like it or not, we and all other non-Muslim infidels in the world are all in the same exact boat together with the Jewish infidels in tiny Israel,

As the Islamic totalitarian world has been waging a perpetual global jihad against all non-Muslim infidels in the world for the past 1400 years nonstop in which an estimated 270 million non-Muslim people have been brutally murdered in cold-blood by Muslims, which is far more than three times the number of people killed by Muslims than all of the people killed in all of WWI and WWII combined, in a jihad driven perpetually by the ideological force of Islam and all those that follow that ideological force of Islam, i.e., ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD.

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Military and defense contractors here in the U.S. see record amounts of profits due to perpetual war and mass surveillance.


So apparently you would prefer to surrender and convert to Islam or die than to allow the military industrial complex to be able to make a profit, and you wonder why so many people consider you Ron Paul kooks to be unhinged?

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I believe our government, Israel and the military-industrial complex were complicit in either planning or allowing the 9-11 attacks to occur.


This is straight jacket talk here buddy.
Posted by Space Cowboy
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:28 pm to
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We funded the mujahadeen in their war against the Soviet Union. Our biggest Middle Eastern ally is Saudi Arabia, who not only provide the ideological framework for Al-Qaeda, but monetary as well. We deposed Saddam Hussein on a lie knowing that the vacuum would be filled by Sunni extremists. We deposed Ghaddafi and plunged Libya into chaos. We also want to depose Assad, who should be an ally in stopping ISIS. If you think the United States is committed to stopping Islamic terrorism, you are the stupid one. Our government wants Islamic terrorism to continue ad infinitum.


Just curious man...is there anything that happened in the world that you can't blame on America first? Meanwhile, you mentally handicapped Ron Paul kooks wonder why we also call you American haters self-hating loons. It's because you loons are.
Posted by Space Cowboy
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:46 pm to
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Most Americans couldn't find any Middle Eastern country on a map,


What makes you believe you are an authority on the Islamic Middle East, when you obviously don’t have the first freaking clue about Islam or the kinds of threats it presents to the world?

Indeed, with respect to Islam you are utterly delusional, and never mind the fact that Sharia controls every single aspect of a Muslim’s life down to the minutest of details. As Islam is both a religion and a supremacist totalitarian ideology all rolled up into one that seeks world domination as its sole fundamental purpose.

Meanwhile, ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD, are also the loyal slaves of Allah, and the few who refuse to remain the loyal servants of Allah, are supposed to be summarily executed.

Indeed, with respect to jihad, you are utterly oblivious. Yet you blame America and your adolescent notion of “meddling”, as being the cause for all problems in the world like a lunatic. Indeed, like Ron Paul, you are little more than an American hating unhinged kook, and it’s mostly because you loons don’t have the first freaking clue about Islam.

In fact, that’s why that kook Ron Paul claims 9/11 was American’s chickens coming home to roost. Indeed, like a lunatic, Paul calls it blowback, which is utterly absurd, and why he is easily dismissed by the overwhelming majority of Americans as being an America hating blame America first kook.


Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:49 pm to
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Just curious man...is there anything that happened in the world that you can't blame on America first? Meanwhile, you mentally handicapped Ron Paul kooks wonder why we also call you American haters self-hating loons. It's because you loons are.



Everything he said is true.

None of it is 'blaming'.

There's an obvious and clear difference in intellects between the two of you (hint: you're the inferior one).

The problem with boards like this is there's such a huge gap between not just beliefs but intelligence and knowledge bases. You really aren't equipped to sit at the table of discussion with him.
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