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re: 30th year poli-sci Reunion at Columbia: NOT ONE PERSON remembers Obama

Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:41 pm to
The man is clearly KGB - a black Soviet mole of a higher cut.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:43 pm to
The question isn't about whether he ever went to Columbia. That's simply a red herring that allows liberals an opportunity to skirt the real issue, which is, why has Obama gone to such great lengths to keep his college records sealed? What is he hiding?

Funny how we know about Rick Perry's college records, but not Obama's. Of course he's hiding something.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:47 pm to
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gone to such great lengths


Can you list these supposed "great lengths"?

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sealed


His records are not sealed.

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Funny how we know about Rick Perry's college records,


Rick Perry is an idiotic hack. The other guy is the president.

I actually would like to see all records for all politicians, but president's unsealing their college records is not something that has much historical precedent. e.g. Bush did not do it.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:47 pm to
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why
it has already been answered - it makes people who talk about it look like nuts
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Of course he's hiding something.


Okay but of all the things he could possibly be hiding, which of thrm bear on his ability to be the president. Most people can evaluate him based on his decision. Same with Bush and the ANG.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:52 pm to
Because of his diversity, political backing, and community activities. Schools do shite like that all the time, especially the Ivies.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Vegas Bengal
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:53 pm to
Just because Beck says something, it doesn't make it so. Here are classmates who remember him:


One person who did remember Mr. Obama was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

Columbia was a hotbed for discussion of foreign policy, Mr. Baron said. The faculty included Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, and Zalmay Khalilzad, now the American ambassador to the United Nations. Half of the eight students in the seminar were outstanding, and Mr. Obama was among them, Mr. Baron said.

Michael J. Wolf, who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out.”

Mr. Obama graduated in 1983. In his memoir, he says he had decided to become a community organizer but could not persuade anyone to hire him. So he found “more conventional work for a year” to pay off his student loans.

“Sometimes, coming out of an interview with Japanese financiers or German bond traders, I would catch my reflection in the elevator doors — see myself in a suit and tie, a briefcase in my hand — and for a split second I would imagine myself as a captain of industry, barking out orders, closing the deal, before I remembered who it was that I had told myself I wanted to be and felt pangs of guilt for my lack of resolve,” Mr. Obama wrote.

Cathy Lazere, his supervisor at Business International, described him as self-assured and bright. “He was very mature and more worldly than other people — on the surface kind of laid back, but kind of in control,” she said. “He had a good sense of himself, which I think a lot of kids at that age don’t.”

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Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:56 pm to
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Because of his diversity, political backing, and community activities. Schools do shite like that all the time, especially the Ivies.


Harvard Law? Really?

I would have thought because he did well academically in his undergraduate and then performed well on his LSAT. When it came to tie-breakers, then using diversity.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:00 pm to
Overall, for the 99% of applicants, the standards are much higher and more difficult than average obviously. But for the few exceptions they make, they're totally off the wall.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Harvard Law? Really?


How, exactly, do you think Bush stacked up against his co-applicants for Harvard Business School? Which percentile do you think he scored in on his GMAT?

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Why has Bush gone to such "great lengths" to "seal" his HBS records?

You wanna talk conspiracies? Which is easier to believe - a guy who had help from a CIA head father or some obscure half black guy from Hawaii?
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Which is easier to believe - a guy who had help from a CIA head father or some obscure half black guy from Hawaii?
They are equally believable. Connections go a long way. So does "diversity" in this particular area
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:13 pm to
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They are equally believable. Connections go a long way. So does "diversity" in this particular area


I'm talking about the crazy conspiracies. If you had to pick one side to believe something crazy about, would you pick the poor guy with the philandering African father or would you pick the scion of an American political dynasty with ancestors living in rarified, WASP air for decades?
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:30 pm to
Im amazed how hostile liberals get defending Obama.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:30 pm to
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How, exactly, do you think Bush stacked up against his co-applicants for Harvard Business School? Which percentile do you think he scored in on his GMAT?


I think he stacked up very poorly. I think that he got in because of his father's connections and he was an alumni of Yale. It wasn't based on academic merit.

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Why has Bush gone to such "great lengths" to "seal" his HBS records?


Doubt anyone is arguing that President Bush performed well during his undergraduate (nor did, apparently, President Obama). It is my understanding that he pulled himself (somewhat) together during his graduate studies (the same argument made for President Obama).

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You wanna talk conspiracies? Which is easier to believe - a guy who had help from a CIA head father or some obscure half black guy from Hawaii?


Not even sure what point you are trying to make here. His father is a man of great influence. There is no disputing that.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:34 pm to
The fact remains, Obama has spent money in an effort to keep his college records from being released to the public. At the very least, there's some information there that he doesn't want the public knowing.

We can all decide for ourselves how relevant this is. Imo, it's simply one of many things Obama would like to keep under wraps. He got busted on the Jeremiah Wright association, but the media refused to do its due diligence in that matter. Likewise, his "boyhood" mentor in Hawaii would've been much bigger news if Obama had been a conservative and the mentor had been a right-wing nut instead of a left-wing, Communist kook.

Bottom line, we were sold a "pig at a poke" regarding Obama. Some of us knew better, even in 2008, but too many either couldn't figure it out or didn't care.

But, you know what? Even those of us who didn't buy the hype will never really get the last laugh. Yes, Obama has been exposed as an empty suit by now. Even some liberal journalists and politicians are talking about how he has already "checked out" with regards to handling his presidential duties. But, in the process that man and his corrupt and inept administration have done much damage to this country.

Congratulations, Obama supporters. I hope you're happy about what this community organizer without a clue has wrought.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:38 pm to
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You wanna talk conspiracies? Which is easier to believe - a guy who had help from a CIA head father or some obscure half black guy from Hawaii?


Probably equal.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Probably equal.


Disagree. I think it makes for a more interesting discussion as to how President Obama was admitted to both Columbia and Harvard Law and how he paid for them.

President Bush? Money and privilege. Nothing new about that.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:49 pm to
This article is from his former roommate at Columbia. I remember reading it years ago and thinking how much it reeked of bullshite.

Is this how you guys would write about your one of your friends from college? It seems so contrived to me.

My College Roommate

ETA: " Barack listened carefully to all points of view and he was funny, smart, thoughtful and well-liked."

and

"As a host and roommate, he sometimes did the shopping and cooked the chicken curry."

This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:52 pm to
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but president's unsealing their college records is not something that has much historical precedent. e.g. Bush did not do it.


Umm...yes he did. In 2004 to combat AWOL allegations.

Also, in 1999 his were LEAKED before he was asked. Funny how Obama's never leaked...maybe because...






















...there are none.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:54 pm to
It blows my mind how liberals refuse to even admit to the possibility that some of this stuff doesn't add up. Is their man-love for him made them that blind? Even gone as far as to DEFEND use of the US Governments most powerful arm to oppress political opinion. Damn, have we sunk that low?

You guys would follow him if he decided to invade hell.
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