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Majora Carter, 41, was one of the Olympic torch bearers as the flame made its way through San Francisco. During her run, she pulled out a small Tibetan flag “to condemn China’s human rights abuses in the Himalayan province.” (source)

Some people prefer that China continue its genocidal and illegal occupation of Tibet. They have a right to that opinion. However, here is what pisses me off… the Olympic Torch is accompanied by a Chinese Paramilitary Squad — right here on our own soil.

The government that gave us the Tiananmen Square massacre, a disgust for freedom of expression that would even offend the Bush family, and a virtual dim sum cart of human rights abuses has its thugs running security on American soil!

This cadre of gang members honed their expertise in martial arts, marksmanship and hand-to-hand combat, and are trained to brutally suppress demonstrations and farmer’s uprisings in China which routinely result in the slaughter of scores of protesters who dare stand up to the Communist police state. (source)

In the U.K., the group came under criticism for its heavy-handed tactics used to suppress criticism of the Communist Chinese regime (source). I’m infuriated enough when I think of Chinese brown-shirts suppressing expression on the streets of London, but I have enough American pride that I presumed it wouldn’t happen here.

No such luck.

It is bad enough that we’ve been sucking the Chinese national cock economically and politically for at least 20 years, but now we have gone so far as to let their goons attack our citizens for exercising their First Amendment rights.

When Carter pulled out the Tibetan flag, the Chinese goons “pounced”, took away the flag, and handed her over to police. (source)

Communist Chinese-style political oppression came to San Francisco on Wednesday when police, acting on the orders of Chinese paramilitary cops, removed and shoved to the sidewalk an Olympic torch bearer for displaying a Tibetan flag, as the woman’s pleas that she had the right to free speech as an American citizen fell on deaf ears.

After seizing the Tibetan flag, the blue tracksuit-clad specially trained Chinese paramilitary police thugs who manhandled protesters in London made the torch bearer known to the San Francisco police were all too willing to do their dirty work for them. (source)


Naturally, the above-quoted source is as biased as I am. Nevertheless, the event happened. On American soil, Chinese goons attacked an American citizen for exercising her First Amendment rights and then, even worse, gave orders to American police that were complicit in the act.

Who is to blame? I blame our own people. We have gone from land of the free and home of the brave to the land of the mewling cowards.

Fellow torch-bearer Richard Doran, 57, a retired FDNY firefighter, called Carter’s maverick move “disgusting and appalling.”

“I think she dishonored herself and her family, and if she wanted to do that, she should’ve given up her spot to someone else,” said Doran, 57, who carried the torch wearing his Rescue 4 helmet to honor firefighters killed on 9/11.

Retired NYPD cop Jim Dolan, 64, who also carried the flame, agreed, saying, “That was not the time and place to do it. We were there to represent the best of American citizens.”

Coca-Cola officials, who invited Carter to participate in the relay, were also chagrined.

“It’s unfortunate that Ms.Carter used an invitation to participate in the torch relay as a platform to make a personal, political statement,” company flack Kelly Brooks said. (source)


Lets break it down, a firefighter who was honoring the memory of Americans killed on 9/11 thinks that it Carter’s conduct was shameful, but has nothing to say about the Chinese thugs. A cop pig doesn’t realize that when we support the human rights of others, we ARE representing the best of American citizens. Hell, even something as American as Coca-Cola is anti-freedom.

This isn’t the first time that this kind of thing has happened. Last summer, during a soccer match at the University of Utah involving a Chinese team, fans were ejected for waving Tibetan flags. (source) Don’t believe me? Watch the video.

Does anyone know how to say “yes, massa!” in Chinese? We had better practice.

Japan and Australia, on the other hand, are still apparently sovereign nations. (source)

Jim Dolan, Richard Doran, and Kelly Brooks, you get ass-hat awards, while Majora Carter gets a First Amendment Bad arse nod.


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Maybe I'm thinking with emotion rather than rationality, but this does not sit well with me at all.







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CarrolltonTiger
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I agree with these guys:

Fellow torch-bearer Richard Doran, 57, a retired FDNY firefighter, called Carter’s maverick move “disgusting and appalling.”

“I think she dishonored herself and her family, and if she wanted to do that, she should’ve given up her spot to someone else,” said Doran, 57, who carried the torch wearing his Rescue 4 helmet to honor firefighters killed on 9/11.

Retired NYPD cop Jim Dolan, 64, who also carried the flame, agreed, saying, “That was not the time and place to do it. We were there to represent the best of American citizens.”

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Protest the Chinese from the side of the march, make your opposition to the genocide of Tibetan culture known (its only been going on for 60 years), your opposition to the Communist regime for whatever wrongs you choose, but you don't weasel your way into the offical party and then pull that sort of crap, F her and her classless behavior.







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WristFatigue
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Yeah, frick the 1st Amendment.

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."

Furthermore, since when is it cool to have foreign troops on our soil policing our citizens?



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Yeah, frick the 1st Amendment.


It has nothing to do with the first amendment. She has the right to protest, I just think she is a slimeball for accepting the honor then being an embarassment to the country. Lack of character.

Also most of the protesters couldn't have found Tibet on a map one year ago: "It just became really clear to me what was going on in Tibet and I wanted to do something." BS she wanted her 15 minutes of fame.

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Furthermore, since when is it cool to have foreign troops on our soil policing our citizens?


What makes them foreign troops? They are Olympic Committee security for the torch provided by China, if we don't want them in the US we could have refused the torch being brought here. If the torch comes it gets protected from protestors.














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It has nothing to do with the first amendment. She has the right to protest, I just think she is a slimeball for accepting the honor then being an embarassment to the country. Lack of character.

Also most of the protesters couldn't have found Tibet on a map one year ago: "It just became really clear to me what was going on in Tibet and I wanted to do something." BS she wanted her 15 minutes of fame.



It has everything to do with the first amendment. She was silenced for protesting.

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What makes them foreign troops? They are Olympic Committee security for the torch provided by China, if we don't want them in the US we could have refused the torch being brought here. If the torch comes it gets protected from protestors.


They're Chinese paramilitary troops.

Not sure what you don't understand about it.

And yes, we could have refused. The very fact we didn't is scary in and of itself.

As the author of the article writes: "How do you say 'yes massa' in Chinese?"






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What cracks me up the most about the whole affair is that it took place in The People's Republic of San Francisco. A bunch of Socialist-Communist liberals outraged at the heavy-handed tactics of a Communist security squad. The irony is priceless.





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WristFatigue
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I've been here a day and already see that you have no idea what you're talking about most of the time, GLT.





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Tigah in the ATL
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Good grief. Attacked? What I saw was "took the flag."

Another "free speech" bonehead. It wasn't her torch. Get over it.






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WristFatigue
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Then take the torch from her.

She was suppressed. Her property was taken by a foreign power. All because she protested.

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Another "free speech" bonehead.


Yeah. frick the constitution.






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genuineLSUtiger
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I've been here a day and already see that you have no idea what you're talking about most of the time, GLT


You were born the year I graduated from high school. Why should I listen to a know-it-all 22 year old? Oh yeah, I forgot. You know everything at that age. I've been there, son. You don't know shite.






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It has everything to do with the first amendment. She was silenced for protesting.


If she was just protesting and not participating n the torch relay, you'd be correct, but that is not what she did.






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CarrolltonTiger
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It has everything to do with the first amendment. She was silenced for protesting.


She could have protested on the street, she had no constitutional right to remain in the torch ceremony once she began to protest, it was not as you claim her torch.

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They're Chinese paramilitary troops.

Not sure what you don't understand about it.


What do you think it means, they all had the same color track suits on?

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And yes, we could have refused. The very fact we didn't is scary in and of itself.

As the author of the article writes: "How do you say 'yes massa' in Chinese?"


I know how to write, you are a fricking moron.







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They're Chinese paramilitary troops.



Are they doing anything other than guard the torch?






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WristFatigue
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You were born the year I graduated from high school. Why should I listen to a know-it-all 22 year old? Oh yeah, I forgot. You know everything at that age. I've been there, son. You don't know shite.


Ah, the age card. Because we all know every 40 year old knows more than every 22 year old. Particularly ones from Tennessee.

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She could have protested on the street, she had no constitutional right to remain in the torch ceremony once she began to protest, it was not as you claim her torch.



But it was her property confiscated by a foreign power. Whether it's a $3 flag or a $1,000,000 mansion I see no difference in principle.

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Are they doing anything other than guard the torch?


Silencing protestors and taking their property, apparently.







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TigerDeacon
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Because we all know every 40 year old knows more than every 22 year old.


Yeah, most 40 year olds know vast amounts more than 22 year olds. It's called experience.

Back to the topic, I applaud the lady for making a statement. I think history will condemn us for our willing acceptance of China's regime.



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Also most of the protesters couldn't have found Tibet on a map one year ago: "It just became really clear to me what was going on in Tibet and I wanted to do something." BS she wanted her 15 minutes of fame.

Yes, simply carrying the Olympic torch wouldn't have done that.






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If the torch comes it gets protected from protestors.

Last time I checked we had American security guards. Well, maybe they're all in Iraq.






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She could have protested on the street, she had no constitutional right to remain in the torch ceremony once she began to protest

Are you saying you loose your constitutional rights the moment you begin to protest?


The propoganda is working.






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Are you saying you loose your constitutional rights the moment you begin to protest?


No A-hole. I'm saying when you agree with the Olympic committeee to participate in a program you don't make an arse of yourself and embarass the organization. If you want to make a political statement do it on your own time, you don't accept the honor and turn on your host. I agreed with the fellow participants who thought she was wrong to politicize the honor they were given.






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The right to free speech is not unrestricted. The First Amendment doesn't protect Ms. Carter from disrupting her procession any more than it would a Krewe member in the Bacchus parade who waved a sign from a float that said "King Bacchus is a pedophile."

Ms. Carter could have protested as a spectator. Instead, she embarrassed our country.






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