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Is City in big trouble the next few years

Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:29 pm
They have the oldest avg age roster at 29.5.Their manager has said they have no one in the youth set up that can slide right in and make an impact.

The roster needs a major overhaul and with FFP they really can't spend like gang busters anymore.

City as a club just can't sustain their success like big clubs do. When they win the league then come no where close the next year let the winner run away with it.

The next few years could be for the taking for Liverpool or Spurs to become a regular in the top 4.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 1:20 am
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:34 pm to
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The next few years could be for the taking for Liverpool or Spurs to become a regular in the top 4.

Don't fricking tease us like that!
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:44 pm to
Don't worry.

Liverpool will find a way to frick up the monumental opportunity.

Will sell Sterling and buy a bunch of shite this summer.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 5:57 pm to
They have done a bad job managing their roster. At least PSG have Lucas, Veratti, Rabbiot and Marquinhos

They will have to sell Aguero to Barca or Real and invest that.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 6:00 pm to
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They will have to sell Aguero to Barca or Real and invest that.


Sell Yaya and spend about 80-100 net is my guess.

I love yaya when he's on but he's just disinterested now.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 7:30 pm to
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he's just disinterested now.


Seems the whole team has been disinterested this season. The only player who has really stood out has been Hart.
Posted by Srbtiger06
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:08 pm to
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Seems the whole team has been disinterested this season. The only player who has really stood out has been Hart.



Hart is still Hart.

Eh...Kun, Silva, and Zaba have been pretty solid. Everyone else has been hit or miss. I think they sell big this year regardless of return on investment. We need some new blood BAD.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:11 pm to
They will probably be alright. Most of the BPL isn't very good to begin with, and they are a player or two away from competing, along with a new manager. They can easily be top four. They just have to be better than Spurs, 'Pool and Southampton, and none of those clubs look poised to do anything. Southampton can be a top half team but don't have the depth to mount a season long challenge, and both Pool and Tottenham have invested fairly poorly after key departures.

The level of play in the PL this season has been extremely poor, despite the massive revenues. The PL has to start worrying about performing in Europe, as if the coefficient keeps dropping they will eventually have only three CL spots.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:38 pm to
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The level of play in the PL this season has been extremely poor,


Won't argue with you there.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:00 pm to
Screw promotion, the championship this year is intensity in ten cities
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:32 pm to
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Most of the BPL isn't very good to begin with


True. Such a weird year.

United SUCKED to start but have gelled under Van Gaal.
Pool sold Suarez and spent a ton and have been pretty bad.
Chelsea is winning but every match I've watched has been very 'meh'. They don't look the part.
City has been bad. Insane talent and REALLY good manager IMO but have had too many WTF moments.

Tottenham

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The level of play in the PL this season has been extremely poor, despite the massive revenues. The PL has to start worrying about performing in Europe, as if the coefficient keeps dropping they will eventually have only three CL spots.



I think the league rebounds. MU will be better. Hopefully Pool will get it together. Chelsea will contend as long as Mou is there. IDK what to think about Arsenal. Spurs will spur.

City can/will revamp the squad next year. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out as well as Pellers' future. I like Pellegrini and think we would be retarded to get rid of him BUT it has been a very underwhelming campaign.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:04 pm to
United still wins, but they win very ugly. And it's not a pragmatic sort of winning, in the sense they score early and close up shop. They just seem to get lucky. Rooney for them has been incredible. I'd be surprised if England were to develop a player as versatile as Rooney, as well as so effective on the stat sheet. For my money he's been the best English player this last decade, which was littered with singular English talents.

Chelsea is much the same as MU, except they don't seem to trip over themselves as much. Spurs aren't very good, or rather, they flatter to deceive. 'Pool could be good, but they've made some incredibly poor decisions in the market, as have Spurs. Spending money just because you have it is a pretty terrible idea. Both teams needed to be a bit more pragmatic with their investment. And there is a danger that Henderson and Sterling could leave. Spurs don't look like they will be raided because they don't have any sparkling talents except for Lloris, though Kane is a good CF and Eriksen is a good playmaker and is excellent on set pieces. Otherwise they have a bunch of players that look good on paper but aren't very good in real life. Townsend sucks, Chadli is serviceable, Paulinho and Lamela aren't living up to expectations, Dembele is a fantastic dribbler but he can't seem to find an end product, Capoue is big and slow on the ball, and doesn't fit their system.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:18 pm to
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I think the league rebounds. MU will be better. Hopefully Pool will get it together. Chelsea will contend as long as Mou is there. IDK what to think about Arsenal. Spurs will spur. City can/will revamp the squad next year. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out as well as Pellers' future. I like Pellegrini and think we would be retarded to get rid of him BUT it has been a very underwhelming campaign.


I'm not so sure. Mou has been caught out by tactical decisions the last two seasons in Europe where it's difficult to win and be negative. They need to figure out how to get the best out of Fabregas, as he's been poor since the new year and is a defensive liability.

MU still has problems in midfield,as well as fitting all those players into the side. And they will have a problem with Rooney, as he is nearing the end of his career, as they don't have a young striker capable of leading the line (yes I know about their academy talents but they aren't on the level to replace Rooney).

City would be mad to get rid of Pellegrini. The only available coach might be Ancelotti, and he will inherit an aging squad. Pellegrini is a coach who has vision. One would hope they give him a chance to rebuild. Teams have figured out that if you deny Silva space between the lines, City is usually out of options. They need a winger will provide some runs for Silva, as they also need a passer out of midfield.

I really think Arsenal are the best poised for a title run with an addition of another player or two. Lots of depth, with talented attacking players who can run with and without the ball. But entirely reliant on Giroud continuing his good run of form into next season. Ozil has been masterful since his return from injury. Moves without the ball so well that it creates all sorts of openings for other players to exploit. Probably has the most cohesive attacking unit in the PL, on paper and in reality.

Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:37 pm to
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City would be mad to get rid of Pellegrini. The only available coach might be Ancelotti, and he will inherit an aging squad. Pellegrini is a coach who has vision. One would hope they give him a chance to rebuild. Teams have figured out that if you deny Silva space between the lines, City is usually out of options. They need a winger will provide some runs for Silva, as they also need a passer out of midfield.
A lot of this is accurate, but my biggest frustration with Pellegrini is his stubborn attachment to the 442. It forces Silva to play out wide, when he is best as a 10, and forces them to play 2v3 in the middle. I thought when they sold Negredo he would be committed to a 4231 more often, but I was very mistaken.

Pellegrini isn't the real problem though. Overall the roster is kind of just broken. They have too many 10s who won't track back. Navas is a corner machine, but they have no one who can get a corner past the first defender. Aguero is the only attacking player who runs behind the defense. So they play him up top, which causes him to be the target man, while Dzeko basically does nothing. That can make it difficult for them to get out of their own end in some games, especially when they're being dominated in the middle playing a man short.

They really need a top quality winger and a top quality box to box guy. I really don't think they need a huge overhaul, but they do need some fresh blood and to get some of the lazier players off the roster. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they sold 5-6 rotation players this offseason.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:45 pm to
Bony is a good targetman, and they could play two strikers and have Silva at the No.10 if they somehow could organize their midfield. Toure doesn't seem to want to defend. Fernandinho is limited, as is Fernando. Nasri at Man City has turned into a tremendous pussy. Navas has no end product, they don't have enough left sided width as Clichy is terrible going forward while Kolarov is terrible defensively. They need to build the team around Silva and give him options. Buy another box to box player, and organize the defense to get something out of the attackers.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:23 am to
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Sell Yaya and spend about 80-100 net is my guess.



With FFP City can't spend 100+ million on players anymore unless they sell around the same amount.

The club doesn't make enough revenue or have the potential even with the stadium expansion and using the other clubs as write offs.

City spending 100+ on players throws then back in the red big time, which would lead to more restrictions and fines.

Already had the 21 player roster for Europe which a certain amount had to be home grown.

Throw in the fact they will be desperate for home grown players this offseason as well.

The revolving door of squad players has killed City's depth.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 1:25 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:38 am to
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A lot of this is accurate, but my biggest frustration with Pellegrini is his stubborn attachment to the 442. It forces Silva to play out wide, when he is best as a 10, and forces them to play 2v3 in the middle. I thought when they sold Negredo he would be committed to a 4231 more often, but I was very mistaken.

Pellegrini isn't the real problem though. Overall the roster is kind of just broken. They have too many 10s who won't track back. Navas is a corner machine, but they have no one who can get a corner past the first defender. Aguero is the only attacking player who runs behind the defense. So they play him up top, which causes him to be the target man, while Dzeko basically does nothing. That can make it difficult for them to get out of their own end in some games, especially when they're being dominated in the middle playing a man short.

They really need a top quality winger and a top quality box to box guy. I really don't think they need a huge overhaul, but they do need some fresh blood and to get some of the lazier players off the roster. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they sold 5-6 rotation players this offseason.



I think he is a good coach, but he is so fricking stubborn.

But the only solution i've heard from him all year is we need to buy more players. Problem is since he took over every player brought in has been awful and for way to much money. Even Bony has been a waste.

Mangala for more than 30 million with the potential of being 42 is beyond bad business.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:54 am to
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Manager Manuel Pellegrini believes Manchester City must sign “big name” players this summer in order to keep pace with their rivals.

Ahead of City's crucial clash at Crystal Palace on Monday Night Football – a game they have to win in order to regain second place in the Premier League – Pellegrini was coy on the club’s recruitment plans.

But he said: “It is the way of thinking that big teams need to sign a big player. It is very difficult to do it every year, but every two years you must do it.


So much for changing their ways.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 3:02 am to
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City can/will revamp the squad next year. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out as well as Pellers' future. I like Pellegrini and think we would be retarded to get rid of him BUT it has been a very underwhelming campaign.



how you can't just throw money at it

also JC made a great point after the match last night

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“The situation they were in, before FFP came in, I had visions of them getting the best young players around our country and in Europe, and they would be ready to step in. They haven't got anyone there.

“Pellegrini said they haven't got anyone there to come through, so they have to spend again.

“I think it is so poor from those at the top of the club, it is mismanagement from them.”
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:54 am to
Sell Yaya, Dzeko, Jovetic AT LEAST and that will net City probably close to 90 million.

For those who think City have to sell Aguero, you couldn't be more wrong. They don't care about return at all. Aguero, Silva and Kompany will be there until they want to leave.

City will be fine I think, they have had a really strange year and I think they''ll compete once again next season.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 9:58 am
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