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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:30 pm to ell_13
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With MLB, you are averaging the best of the best and only 32 teams... With college, you are averaging hundreds of teams most of whom have players that aren't great. It's not fair at all to compare the two.
The SEC is the best conference in college baseball...
The SEC has played 404 games total and teams have hit 270 homeruns for a 0.668 average HR's per game. And I'd assume many of those homeruns were against inferior competition.
You aren't going to sell me that the balls have been perfect for the sport and now the dead bats problem is okay.
At the end of the day I just want college baseball to be a generally accepted sport. Right now it isn't a major sport. I don't think it will improve with the amazing bunting skills! And I am a fan of exciting basepath moves and the chess game within the sport.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:34 pm to SouthOfSouth
quote:That's a bad assumption since most of those games were in cold weather and cold hitters. HRs go up as the year goes on regardless of the competition level.
And I'd assume many of those homeruns were against inferior competition.
quote:No matter what?
You aren't going to sell me that the balls have been perfect for the sport and now the dead bats problem is okay.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:35 pm to ell_13
I don't want crazy boom ball type stuff. And I was very hopeful that the new balls would vastly improve the game.
I will be convinced if we get to Omaha and homeruns can be had.
I'm surprised I am getting and opposition to just wanting the old 2009 bats back...
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:36 pm to SouthOfSouth
quote:frick
I will be convinced if we get to Omaha and homeruns can be had.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:38 pm to ell_13
Is it measuring against last year at the midpoint or what. If it's measuring for on pace it can be misleading because teams are only 3-4 weeks in conference play. They have mostly played scratch games, but that's really cool if so. It countering the newer bats that hurt the hitters' power
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:39 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Personally I think they still need to go back to the bats of a few years ago.
The bat change was made under the guise of player safety. They will never change back.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:39 pm to SouthOfSouth
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LSU fans act like the balls are so much better because our batters are much better.
SOS makes a valid point when we are looking just at LSU HR stats.
Through 28 games in 2014, ULaLa had 32 home runs. So if the "better" ball was the only factor they would have a lot more homers too, right?
ULaLa HRs this year through 28 games = 15.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:41 pm to SouthOfSouth
Home runs will not be had in Omaha. That park is a park where gorilla ball dies. As much as I like the stadium itself, it is built for some boring baseball.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:42 pm to Tiger413
quote:Yes. Midpoint to midpoint.
Is it measuring against last year at the midpoint or what
The biggest misleading part is that it's just 1 year which there can always be outlying differences regardless of any changes.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:44 pm to 81Tiger
quote:He absolutely does... about our hitters. I agree with him. We have 3 huge things working for us and why our numbers are so much higher:
SOS makes a valid point when we are looking just at LSU HR stats.
1) New balls
2) Tons of experience
3) New hitting coach (maybe)
But this graphic is all of NCAA, not just LSU.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:48 pm to ell_13
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But this graphic is all of NCAA, not just LSU.
I totally agree with you ell. But as LSU fans, watching one of the top hitting teams in the nation, we are probably overstating the impact of the new seams.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:49 pm to ell_13
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My guess is that many HRs would be doubles anyway. So the only run you lose there is the batter.
Flyout does not equal double.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:50 pm to 81Tiger
quote:I gave you 3 options to chose from!!!
But as LSU fans, watching one of the top hitting teams in the nation, we are probably overstating the impact of the new seams.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:54 pm to ell_13
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1) New balls 15%
2) Tons of experience 80%
3) New hitting coach (maybe) 5% maybe
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:56 pm to 81Tiger
Probably not far off
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:57 pm to mattgr1983
You figure that out all by yourself? Impressive
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:16 pm to TigerCub
RE-FIRE JAVI!!!!
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:41 pm to lsu2006
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The bat change was made under the guise of player safety. They will never change back
Finally, someone else who gets it.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:42 pm to SouthOfSouth
quote:Right, except that the hr/game in the ncaa has never been remotely close to 1.7.
In the Majors they hit 1.7 homeruns per game. That is a reasonable expectation IMO for parks that are a lot smaller than MLB parks (on average).
The highest it's been since 1970 has been 1.06 and that was in the gorilla ball days of 1998. Early 90s and early to mid 2000s had rates around 0.7-0.8, which is where I think it needs to be.
Here's some trend stats for perspective. LINK
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