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re: Is there any hope of Martin deciding to return?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:11 pm to Tiger in NY
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:11 pm to Tiger in NY
Tyrus led a team to the final four and was a top 5 lock. So no 2 more years wouldnt help him.
Martin on the other hand doesnt have a resume like that and could improve his draft stock and his chance of making more money. The thing youre forgetting is that the only guaranteed contract is your rookie deal. Cherry picking players that made some money in the NBA doesnt really prove much other than if you make it or get drafted top 5, you get money.
Oh and i think he spent most of it because statistically athletes dont make good financial decisions. They buy expensive cars and houses that dont always hold their value. There's a whole 30 for 30 about it. You should check it out.
Martin on the other hand doesnt have a resume like that and could improve his draft stock and his chance of making more money. The thing youre forgetting is that the only guaranteed contract is your rookie deal. Cherry picking players that made some money in the NBA doesnt really prove much other than if you make it or get drafted top 5, you get money.
Oh and i think he spent most of it because statistically athletes dont make good financial decisions. They buy expensive cars and houses that dont always hold their value. There's a whole 30 for 30 about it. You should check it out.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:13 pm
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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i just feel like i am watching another Stromile Swift or Tyrus Thomas. id hate to see Martin struggle in the NBA like those two when he could come back to play on one of the best teams LSu has fielded in a very long time.
And they have more time to work on their game in the nba with better coaches. Hell, a lot of them get personal coaches. I know AD has one.
He's going to be a 1st round pick. He shouldn't pass that up
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
For one thing, he already declared. He's good enough to not be an idiot for leaving. Mickey needs another year to become a clutch player and FT shooter
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:15 pm to schwartzy
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For one thing, he already declared.
You can declare for the NBA draft and still come back if you don't hire an agent.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:16 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
nah he saw that paycheck.......
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:16 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Oh and i think he spent most of it because statistically athletes dont make good financial decisions. They buy expensive cars and houses that dont always hold their value. There's a whole 30 for 30 about it. You should check it out.
So because other players have spent it in the past, you think he spent it?
Solid logic
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:17 pm to TigerBait1127
As soon as you are drafted, the clock starts ticking. You have however ling the franchise deems they will allow you to prove yourself a commodity. How is it not common sense to try and minimize the amount of improvement needed to produce? Justify it with the money that COULD be made but its still a gamble and the odds could be improved.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:19 pm to Tiger in NY
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T-Rex Thomas: Career (may be incomplete) $37,176,893
I think he's made more than that. He signed a 5 year, $40 million contract in 2010.
Then you have to add the rookie contract to that
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:20 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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As soon as you are drafted, the clock starts ticking. You have however ling the franchise deems they will allow you to prove yourself a commodity.
1st round contracts and NBA contracts are guaranteed.
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How is it not common sense to try and minimize the amount of improvement needed to produce? Justify it with the money that COULD be made but its still a gamble and the odds could be improved.
And how is coming back to college for another year not a gamble?
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:20 pm to TigerBait1127
Thats how statistics work. You test a sample, get a result, then apply said result to the total population. What are you basing your knowledge that he didnt spend on?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:23 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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What are you basing your knowledge that he didnt spend on?
The burden of proof is on you to prove your claim to be true. He has never been like the majority of athletes either, winning several community outreach awards
Also, he received $9+ million this year alone from the bobcats
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hats how statistics work. You test a sample, get a result, then apply said result to the total population.
Total population =/ individuals. By that logic, I guess I can assume that Drew Brees, Payton Manning, Tom Brady, Shaq, MJ, etc are all broke too.
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Thomas is determined to change the perception of him. Off the court, he runs Tyrus Thomas Inc. – a non-profit he founded in 2010 that focuses on “implementing programs geared towards youth outreach and enhancing the community through development.” His signature program C.A.T.C.H. (Caring and Actively Teaching Children Hope) won the National Jefferson Award for Public Service and was featured in the 2010 report on volunteerism to the White House. Thomas received numerous community awards while in the NBA with the Chicago Bulls and Charlotte Bobcats, and he frequently speaks to groups of students to spread his positive, motivational message.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:25 pm to TigerBait1127
College is a MUCH safer bet than the NBA. Its a sport so there us always some risk but college is a much smaller risk. Its a smaller risk because he already knows he can be and is successful at this level. The NBA is an unknown.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:28 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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College is a MUCH safer bet than the NBA. Its a sport so there us always some risk but college is a much smaller risk. Its a smaller risk because he already knows he can be and is successful at this level. The NBA is an unknown.
How is playing an extra year in college a smaller risk financially than a guaranteed NBA contract? He could get injured during the season and cost himself millions even with an insurance policy that cost $$.
Your post doesn't even address risk. You bring up statistics and risk, but what background do you have in evaluating either?
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:43 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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College is a MUCH safer bet than the NBA. Its a sport so there us always some risk but college is a much smaller risk. Its a smaller risk because he already knows he can be and is successful at this level. The NBA is an unknown.
There's no way to quantify the risk. The Harrison twins were likely both draft picks last year. Now, maybe one gets drafted. That's not even considering the risk of injury. Martin sees Simmons and Blakenly coming in. There's only so much to go around. That's not to say that Martin wouldn't get his, but I don't think he stands much to gain coming back for another year.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:48 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I love how yall think tyrus actually has $37 mil in the bank. Dude probaly spent most of it before he was done playing.
Athletes go broke all the time.
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It doesn't matter what he did with the money. He got it.
Athletes go broke all the time.
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It doesn't matter what he did with the money. He got it.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:04 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
If he returns he may be one of top picks next year but if he leaves he could become nobody.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:19 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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College is a MUCH safer bet than the NBA
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:20 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I've seen his salary projection at between $900,000 and $950,000 per year. Does a player at that level get $2 to 3 million per year from various advertisers? If so, then perhaps not a bad gig. Even after agent and IRS take their cuts, hand a kid a net of $2 million plus for 3 years of work who doesn't spend it stupidly and he'd be nicely set up to go back to school and get a day job thereafter very comfortably situated.
If there is no advertising for being the #9 to 12 player on an NBA team, then the potential decision needs to be weighed on upsides of getting to lottery level vs career ending injury [still being able to net the amount of sports injury insurance recovery one can afford].
If there is no advertising for being the #9 to 12 player on an NBA team, then the potential decision needs to be weighed on upsides of getting to lottery level vs career ending injury [still being able to net the amount of sports injury insurance recovery one can afford].
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:02 pm to OneMoreTime
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I love how you think he spent most of it. What are you basing that off of?
And I love how him spending all of his money has anything to do with this discussion. He can take that shite to the fricking money board. Neither Stromile or Tyrus would have gained a single fricking $ by staying in school. They reached their ceiling in college...went to the NBA to be coached by REAL coaches and got paid doing so.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:04 pm to CalTiger53
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If he returns he may be one of top picks next year but if he leaves he could become nobody.
Same was said about Randolph.
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