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re: OT Experts, how to tell if something is real ivory or not?

Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:03 pm to
Bring this to the Police Department. If they arrest you, it's real ivory.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30161 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:06 pm to
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you're really up on your Ivory carvings


It's from years of rummaging resale shops in NOLA and antique malls/estate sales in Texas.

I've ended up with a few interesting pieces over the years. This being my favorite...



It's probably the coolest gift I've ever received... A hand-carved ivory cigarette holder and its case that used to be owned by Greta Garbo. Dragon motif and onyx eyes.

My friends call it Greta Garbo's one-hitter. You can see little indents where she bit down on it.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:07 pm to
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It's probably the coolest gift I've ever received

that is way cool
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30161 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:09 pm to
With any luck - Antiquetiger will see this thread and respond. He'll have a lot more insight on the subject. He knows his stuff.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:12 pm to
Not an expert but I think real ivory has craze lines.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:13 pm to
do you go antiquing over in east TX?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98138 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:15 pm to
If you get indicted for trafficking it, it's real.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:16 pm to
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If you get indicted for trafficking it, it's real.


what I was thinking
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:18 pm to
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antiquing


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:21 pm to
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If you get indicted for trafficking it, it's real.


Really? They sell ivory stuff all over town around here. Natives are allowed to carve and sell.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:24 pm to
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Natives are allowed to carve and sell.


they need to check their privilege
(it's walrus though, si?)
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:26 pm to
Non-natives are allowed to own and sell ivory.

Pre-ban ivory is still legal, at the moment.

Thr heated needle test is the best ID method.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30161 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:30 pm to
I've been to Canton a couple times... Not really my scene. They've got a lot of specialty vendors - But it's not exactly bargain shopping.

I used to love a couple of those places on lower Decatur almost to Esplanade. You could dig around and find a trench lighter, victrola records and a keychain sized "spy camera" from the 50s all in boxes/crates within 10 feet of each other and get it all for under $50 bucks (not in "collector" condition, of course).


Every 4-6 months or so I like to go to Fort Worth and spend the early half a day at the Gun Show in Amon Carter Exhibit Hall and then head a few blocks up the street to the Montgomery Street Antique Mall. It's 61,000 square feet... and does a LOT of turnover so there's always a bunch to sift through.

I also keep tabs on what's going on the block at Texas Star Antique Auctions in Haltom City. They do a lot of Estate auctions and the clientele is mostly antique dealers... so you can get stuff before they can upcharge for it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:31 pm to
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they need to check their privilege
(it's walrus though, si?


Yeah, not a whole lot of difference. Both lack an enanel coating. I think Elephant tusks are hollow, walrus are not. Walrus is more mineralized.
Posted by CapitalCityDevil
Seattle
Member since Nov 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:31 pm to
It definitely isn't bone.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Non-natives are allowed to own and sell ivory.


Right. I think in Ak, only natives are allowed to process it though.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:33 pm to
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I've been to Canton a couple times.

that place is nothing but a flea/junk market, my mother used to go to Jefferson and the surrounding area a lot, don't know why but that area is kind of known for antiquing
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Walrus is more mineralized.


I knew a guy that moved from Alaska to where I'm at a few years ago, he had four beautiful tusks that he tried to sell me. I didn't have any use for them but they were impressive. A bit yellowed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:38 pm to
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I knew a guy that moved from Alaska to where I'm at a few years ago, he had four beautiful tusks that he tried to sell me. I didn't have any use for them but they were impressive. A bit yellowed.


Yeah, it's beautiful stuff when processed but I don't want to pay nearly as much as they want for the stuff. You can get Ulu knives with ivory handles for a reasonable price though
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:24 pm to
Wow, that thing looks awesome. I think I'm going to start going to more estate sales when I can to see what I can find.
I did a search on ivory horse figurines and these pictures came up from an eBay auction:



LINK

And



LINK

They both say ivory colored but made of bone. They look similar to mine but a little different. This doesn't necessarily mean mine is bone and not ivory or plastic, however.


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