re: Michael Sam still being blackballed for his gayness

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clocked unofficial 40-yard dash times of 5.07 and 5.10 seconds

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Sam ran a 4.91 at the NFL Scouting Combine

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unofficial 4.69 at Missouri’s pro day

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Those are some pretty large discrepancies. Maybe more training and less dancing with the stars would have helped.

Without reading through all of this, any idea on how many lols shel has posted in this thread?

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and did I not display evidence of people saying just that? My point was, you stated no one was of the belief Sam is not in the NFL due to his sexual preference, which is false because there are clearly some people who believed that at the time

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I asked if there were notable media members to say it.You posted random quotes, no clue who actually said them, so I'm not sure how you can say that proved me wrong. If you thought I literally meant no one in the world ever said that, yes you are correct, but that would be extremely odd on your part. I'd assume you could be discerning enough to understand I mean anyone notable, not out.com or outsports.com, I didn't realize I'd have to spell it out that explicitly. When he was cut, the media swirl was very quiet, wouldn't you agree?

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You quoted me as saying "plenty of people in the media said sam was blackballed." which I did not say

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So why were people crying foul? For another reason, what reason is that? It was reasonable, in this instance, for me ot infer that is what you were saying, hell, you said it in those terms later on.

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It's funny that people still make this joke.

Sooooo many posters were ranting about the media backlash that would happen when he was cut, and it never happened.

Was there even 1 notable media member to say anything of the sort? .

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Glad someone noticed this. Pretty much everybody I knew on this board and off thought I was a heretic for being so sure that there would be no real backlash.

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The bottom line is he would be in the league if he didn't suck dick.

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Doesn't sound like he's a very good player.

I'm glad he got a chance. If he were the next coming of Bruce Smith no one would give a damn about his sexual preferences. But he's a marginal prospect. No need to put up with him when you can find an equally marginal project that won't bring the circus with him.

That British guy that comes on Lebetard sometimes trotted out the "lowest sec dpoty" line and implied it was because he was gay. That's all I've got.

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I'm glad he got a chance. If he were the next coming of Bruce Smith no one would give a damn about his sexual preferences. But he's a marginal prospect. No need to put up with him when you can find an equally marginal project that won't bring the circus with him.

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This is always how I've pretty much felt on it.

An openly gay player being drafted is a pretty big deal, at least for society. So I get some of that hype. But the media did blow it the frick up into some hugely overrated thing (and social media had something to do with it too). But if he was knocking everyone on their asses he'd still be on a roster. And the worst part about MS (aside from the apparent lack of talent/work ethic) is the bullshite that comes along with him like you said.

I mean shite, at one point, weren't there cameras following him around for some TV show on Oprah's network or something like that? That's ridiculous for a team that's trying to focus on football and prepare for a game/season.

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But let's not act like there isn't a chance some teams discriminated against him. Our states are still split on gay marriages

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Of course there's a chance he was discriminated against but the reason he isn't in the NFL is because

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He sucks and can't contribute on special teams.besr thing he did for his celebrity was come out because he'd be a nobody without it.

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so it's irrelevant

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If I was gay, i'd be so disappointed in Sam. What a loser, he's been all talk. Has not put in the proper work and dedication to his craft to beat the odds.

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He and Tebow were both media whores who did nothing publicly to try and put a stop to it. They both seemed to enjoy all the attention they were getting. Combine that distraction with marginal (at best) talent and you have two guys who are out of the league. This really isn't hard to figure out.

at least tebow is a workout warrior which almost was a down fault, tebow was a hard worker.