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The Thomas Crown Affair - Question

Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:13 am
Posted by MasterBetty
Monroe, LA
Member since Apr 2012
894 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:13 am
First, let me say that I love this movie. I'm talking about the Pierce Brosnan/Rene Russo version. Every time it's on, I tune in.

That being said, I have a couple of issues with the original heist of the Monet. First, if Crown plants the briefcase that morning while enjoying his "Haystacks," once Russo's character discovers that the briefcase was planted, couldn't they go to the tapes earlier that morning and prove that Crown did in fact plant the briefcase?

And while Crown is stealing the Monet, he dumps the frame and throws the canvas into his fold-out briefcase and folds up the canvas. How could he do this without ruining the priceless artwork?

Thoughts?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61838 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:17 am to
Russo's character did go back and view the earlier tapes. She just chose to ignore it so that she could seduce Thomas Crown into bed and smack him on the arse while being carried over his shoulder.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19303 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:21 am to
Russo's topless scene makes everything else in the movie non relevant to anything I care about.
Posted by MasterBetty
Monroe, LA
Member since Apr 2012
894 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:24 am to
I should've put an nb4russosbewbs in the OP. Somehow I knew it would go this direction.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29389 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:31 am to
quote:

That being said, I have a couple of issues with the original heist of the Monet. First, if Crown plants the briefcase that morning while enjoying his "Haystacks," once Russo's character discovers that the briefcase was planted, couldn't they go to the tapes earlier that morning and prove that Crown did in fact plant the briefcase?

When they turned the heat up, there was no video of anyone actually taking that briefcase and using it. Sure it implicates Crowne, but thats circumstantial at best.

quote:

And while Crown is stealing the Monet, he dumps the frame and throws the canvas into his fold-out briefcase and folds up the canvas. How could he do this without ruining the priceless artwork?

I believe the director acknowledged this was a screw up.
Posted by MasterBetty
Monroe, LA
Member since Apr 2012
894 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:36 am to
quote:

When they turned the heat up, there was no video of anyone actually taking that briefcase and using it. Sure it implicates Crowne, but thats circumstantial at best.


Sure it's circumstantial, but it's still worth going back and seeing who put the briefcase there. They didn't even have to go back that far, just that morning and it puts their prime suspect at the scene of the crime just hours before.


quote:

I believe the director acknowledged this was a screw up.


Seems like a pretty big screw up. I have to imagine they knew it was a screw up going in but needed it to work so Crown could walk out with the briefcase, they just hoped no one would notice?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Seems like a pretty big screw up. I have to imagine they knew it was a screw up going in but needed it to work so Crown could walk out with the briefcase, they just hoped no one would notice?


The director has said that he believed audiences would be put off if they actually showed him damaging the painting/breaking the stretcher bars. So he did this and hoped the audiences would not focus on that.

I guess you could assume the briefcase could cut the bars considering he had a heater in it that heated all those rooms in a briefcase that small.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 11:50 am
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76334 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:30 pm to
I don't pretend to understand how the painting fit in the briefcase. I thought it was a magical briefcase for rich people
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98839 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

And while Crown is stealing the Monet, he dumps the frame and throws the canvas into his fold-out briefcase and folds up the canvas. How could he do this without ruining the priceless artwork?


This is explained in the "trivia" section on IMDB. The move does crack the frame the canvas was on, and would have put a crease in the painting. McTiernan cut that because he thought people would be less sympathetic to TC if he actually damaged the painting.

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if Crown plants the briefcase that morning while enjoying his "Haystacks," once Russo's character discovers that the briefcase was planted, couldn't they go to the tapes earlier that morning and prove that Crown did in fact plant the briefcase?


Good question.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31054 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Russo's topless scene makes everything else in the movie non relevant to anything I care about.


This^
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98839 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:38 pm to
Renee Russo is a 60+ I'd knock the bottom out of.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61838 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:55 pm to
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hey didn't even have to go back that far, just that morning and it puts their prime suspect at the scene of the crime just hours before.


a) I'm going to assume that Crowne would have had pretty good lawyers. So investigators knew that they would have to be 100% positive on what they could prove.

b) Russo's character did suspect Crowne. She just had to keep searching for the proof.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29389 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Sure it's circumstantial, but it's still worth going back and seeing who put the briefcase there. They didn't even have to go back that far, just that morning and it puts their prime suspect at the scene of the crime just hours before.


So theres video of the briefcase there, but none of that briefcase being used as part of the crime.

Were they able to identify people on those cameras?
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
Member since Jul 2013
7958 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Russo's topless scene makes everything else in the movie non relevant to anything I care about.


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