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My employee is considering self insured health care...
Posted on 2/24/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/24/15 at 9:52 am
Around 200 employees. Employer has always paid all premiums in a standard 80/20 plan, $20 copay, 10 prescriptions etc.
The companies cost for this type coverage went up 30% last year and another 35% for this year.
My question, is this option becoming more popular and has anyone experienced this change and what are the major differences, besides the obvious?
TIA
The companies cost for this type coverage went up 30% last year and another 35% for this year.
My question, is this option becoming more popular and has anyone experienced this change and what are the major differences, besides the obvious?
TIA
Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:14 am to cuyahoga tiger
Our organization has around 450 employees and we went to self-insured about 5 years ago. Our CFO likes it...we feel like we've been able to keep premiums lower than they would have been had we stayed with a typical plan....
The biggest risk I think is if you have just a couple covered lives receiving dialysis or chemotherapy, you can run costs up very quickly....We've got the premiums of 400-ish staff covering that...spread across 200 would obviously affect the per member cost to a greater degree.
When we switched to self insured, we also began offering employees a higher deductible plan for a lower premium...but obviously how that plays out depends on whether or not your company wants to still pay the premiums for everyone or not...
The biggest risk I think is if you have just a couple covered lives receiving dialysis or chemotherapy, you can run costs up very quickly....We've got the premiums of 400-ish staff covering that...spread across 200 would obviously affect the per member cost to a greater degree.
When we switched to self insured, we also began offering employees a higher deductible plan for a lower premium...but obviously how that plays out depends on whether or not your company wants to still pay the premiums for everyone or not...
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:08 am to cuyahoga tiger
200 employees is a good size to start thinking about self-insured, especially if your group is pretty healthy. The key, more than number of employees, is number of covered lives. I have a client with about 130 employees, but over 500 covered lives (i.e. employees and dependents on the insurance policy).
There is usually a benefits consultant and a plan administrator. It's generally run through a major insurer. The plan details - what is covered, etc, may change, or may not change much. Otherwise, to the employee, it's pretty much business as usual. You deal with the administrator/insurer, so if it's Cigna, you will get an insurance card from Cigna, deal with Cigna customer service, networks, website, EOB, etc.
Behind the scenes, the administrator gets an actuary each year to determine what the premiums need to be for the benefits wanted. Usually the plan also buys reinsurance that kicks in at a high level for any major situations.
There is usually a benefits consultant and a plan administrator. It's generally run through a major insurer. The plan details - what is covered, etc, may change, or may not change much. Otherwise, to the employee, it's pretty much business as usual. You deal with the administrator/insurer, so if it's Cigna, you will get an insurance card from Cigna, deal with Cigna customer service, networks, website, EOB, etc.
Behind the scenes, the administrator gets an actuary each year to determine what the premiums need to be for the benefits wanted. Usually the plan also buys reinsurance that kicks in at a high level for any major situations.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:27 am to cuyahoga tiger
My company does this as well. We have 200 or so employees on this plan. we have BCBS to manage our policy, and my employer self insures the first $50k, then BCBS kicks in afterwards.
We pay zero for our portion of insurance, and we have a 80/20 with $10 copay
Now that the company is expanding i curious to see how the new entities are incorporated
We pay zero for our portion of insurance, and we have a 80/20 with $10 copay
Now that the company is expanding i curious to see how the new entities are incorporated
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:41 pm to tigeraddict
This plan seems to good to be true.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:51 pm to matthew25
quote:It's true.
This plan seems to good to be true.
There are many crafty insurance constructs and devices in the business world.
That's another reason why a person should have an Independent Agent, a State Farm or Allstate agent doesn't get rewarded to think outside the box for you.
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