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re: UFC FN 65 - Mark Hunt vs. Stipe Miocic
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:02 am to SmackDaniels
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:02 am to SmackDaniels
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In all fairness I hate the tired old bullshite overdone line of "glad I didn't pay for this shite" but if anytime that has been relevant it was last night.
I think the rantards that came in to troll don't realize that this was not supposed to be the main event.
There is no doubt she is great for the sport. I said that she couldn't carry a ppv and I stand by that. As a co-main event there isn't as much of a problem. Let Rousey fight Jessica Eye in the main event of a card and see what the ppv numbers look like. Rousey is too dominant to carry a ppv. I love the UFC but I am really glad I didn't pay $60 to watch Rousey armbar someone in 14 seconds, again.
quote:The UFC has already said they would never do this. They've shown that they would rather cancel a card altogether than introduce tiered pricing for cards.
A friend of mine said if the main event is lost they at least could cut the paper-view to 29.95 instead of making it an all out free card. That would make a little sense.
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:28 am to lsu223
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Rousey is too dominant to carry a ppv.
Ridiculous. Mike Tyson agrees.
Dominant champions are what makes PPVs. quote:
As a co-main event there isn't as much of a problem.
Agree
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Let Rousey fight Jessica Eye in the main event of a card and see what the ppv numbers look like.
Let Anderson Silva rematch Patrick Cote and see what the numbers are. They aren't above 500k I can guarantee you that.
Rousey vs. Cyborg will do 500k. They will promote the shite out of that fight. White has said that Rousey get's as much or more pub then Brock Lesnar got. The media are fawning over a woman badass and she's it. She's a dominant badass with the mean mug but extremely sexy at the same time.
She has it all.
1st round dominant finishes
Sex appeal
And plays a great heel.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:40 am to SmackDaniels
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Rousey vs. Cyborg will do 500k.
Would be biggest fight in UFC history viewer wise.
I think it happens sometime next year (probably first half of year). Definitely not a lock to happen, the weight cut for Cyborg will be ridiculous and unhealthy. That said, LOT of money at stake, so I think Cyborg risks some health damage and makes weight.
If it happens, I favor Rousey at 135. Would call it a toss up at 140 and Cyborg at 145 for sure.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:46 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Cyborg said she wants it at 140
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:52 am to SmackDaniels
Rousey should go up to 140.
Mad respect for her if she does and it gives everyone the super fight that is wanted. Unlike Mayweather who ducked for years and now decides to fight when both fighters are well past their prime.
Mad respect for her if she does and it gives everyone the super fight that is wanted. Unlike Mayweather who ducked for years and now decides to fight when both fighters are well past their prime.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:07 am to SmackDaniels
quote:Rousey is head and shoulders above the competition and finishes her opponents quickly, that's where the similarities with Tyson end. Tyson was doing nearly 2 million ppv buys a bout against guys like Lennox and Holyfield. Obviously boxing does better ppv numbers than the UFC, but Rousey isn't even keeping pace with other UFC stars in terms of ppv buys.
Ridiculous. Mike Tyson agrees. Dominant champions are what makes PPVs.
The two cards Rousey headlined before this card, against Carmouche and McMann, did 450k and 350k respectively.
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White has said that Rousey get's as much or more pub then Brock Lesnar got.
And yet her ppv numbers aren't even in the same league.
Lesnar/Mir II - 1.6 million
Lesnar/Carwin - 1 million
Lesnar/Velasquez - 900,000
I think Rousey is a great champion and helps to raise the profile of the UFC, but people aren't going to keep paying to watch her headlining cards in which she beats inferior competition in less than thirty seconds.
A fight against Cyborg is really the only interesting matchup out there for Rousey, but even if they did that fight it wouldn't bring in top notch ppv numbers. Jones/Cormier just did 800k for example. Rousey/Cyborg would probably be 500k like you said.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:34 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Rousey vs. Cyborg will do 500k.
Would be biggest fight in UFC history viewer wise.
No chance! ETA: that it would be the biggest fight ever, it would get 500k
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:34 am to ctiger69
I agree it would be ideal if Rousey did a non title fight with her at 140, but it isn't gonna happen.
First, she loses her advantage IMO.
Second, Dana has said no emphatically several times. He refused to do it for a Carano Rousey match last year as well.
Just doesn't sense long term for the UFC. Rousey is the champ and biggest star. A nontitle fight that is a toss up against cyborg who isn't very marketable anyway and a catch weight fight on top of it is just bad business for the UFC.
First, she loses her advantage IMO.
Second, Dana has said no emphatically several times. He refused to do it for a Carano Rousey match last year as well.
Just doesn't sense long term for the UFC. Rousey is the champ and biggest star. A nontitle fight that is a toss up against cyborg who isn't very marketable anyway and a catch weight fight on top of it is just bad business for the UFC.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:37 am to SmackDaniels
Gina beats her in every category except fighting
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:41 am to Byron Bojangles III
Hell even Anderson Silva and Pierre ducked each other while in their prime.
Rousey needs to fight cyborg.
Rousey needs to fight cyborg.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:52 am to ctiger69
definitely need to see a rousey cyborg fight.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 12:44 pm to ctiger69
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Rousey needs to fight cyborg.
Rousey doesn't need to do shite.
If Cyborg can make 135 Rousey would fight her in a heartbeat but by moving up she has everything to lose and nothing to gain. If she loses the fight her aura of invincibility will be gone, her ppv #s in the future will drop a ton, she won't get paid as much for movies etc. If she wins sure she will get nice #s for that one fight but it wont change anything else for her. Nobody close to her with even half of a brain would let her move up to fight Cyborg, the risk-reward makes no sense.Posted on 3/1/15 at 12:50 pm to lsu480
Her fighting record will have no bearing on how much she gets paid for movies
Posted on 3/1/15 at 12:56 pm to lsu480
Who is Cyborg?
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:09 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Her fighting record will have no bearing on how much she gets paid for movies
Her aura of invincibility is what makes her so marketable and if she loses people won't be as interested in her as they are now. If they aren't as interested not as many people will go out of their way to see her in the movies. If that happens she will absolutely get paid less.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:09 pm to SabiDojo
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Who is Cyborg?
Some roided out dude that fights womens MMA
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:14 pm to SabiDojo
This thing that beats the crap outta people:
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:40 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
Who is Cyborg?
Somewhat of a hybrid between a man and woman thanks to copious hormone therapy.
No female is going to beat Rousey. However, the Cyborg is definitely capable which is why it is the only legit opponent for Rousey.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:43 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
That thing didnt just get caught for steroids, she got caught for freaking anabolic steroids
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:46 pm to lsupride87
Does Fallon Fox fight at 135?
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