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re: Pelicans basketball is annoying

Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:53 am to
Posted by tigersbb
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:53 am to
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The good teams in this league show a certain level of consistency over the course of a season. There is no way the Pels fit that description


This is a top 10 team when all of the players are in the lineup consistently. Injuries are part of the game but it does seem this team has had an above average missed games by its starters.

It would be interesting to see the record if there was a full roster over about a 30 game stretch. They would likely win 20 to 22 games in that stretchand be easily in the playoffs.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:55 am to
And this thread wasn't to troll this board. I want to get into watching the Pels and I can see they have the chance to have a great roster. The SKC will be packed if they start putting it together.

I'm already a Saints and a Cubs fan, so my scrote can only take so much punching.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 9:56 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:57 am to
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Excusable to lose the game or not?


Depends on how you lose it. If Gordon and Tyreke kept getting good looks and just went cold I could have lived with that. But that's not what happened. I still don't understand why we tried to run the offense through Asik and Ajinca in the post. Ajinca is a mid range jump shooter and Asik is Asik. That killed us and let Utah back in.
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:04 am to
The lady friend a Bucks fan?

Id hop on that bandwagon, FWIW... Greak Freak FTW
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:07 am to
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TigerinATL


I'm asking this honestly because I'm just curious on your thoughts: knowing the game and how it flowed, what percentage of the loss is on Monty if you were forced to assign blame? Or, what grade would you give Monty on last night's game if that's simpler?
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:08 am to
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The lady friend a Bucks fan?

Id hop on that bandwagon, FWIW... Greak Freak FTW
Only by default I guess. She is all about Nola sports, too. Packers and Brewers first, Saints and Cubs second.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:27 am to
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what percentage of the loss is on Monty if you were forced to assign blame?


It's hard to say. There is a bit of an injury excuse a healthy team doesn't lose last night. But considering that they had a game plan that seemed to be working quite well, then they went away from that game plan and everything fell apart. I'm going to go with 60/40 Monty/Bad Tyreke.

Tyreke got frustrated and Bad Tyreke showed up, so he deserves some of the blame, but to me the game slipped away in that stretch in the 3rd where they tried to switch to a post offense featuring Asik and Ajinca. Asik as a focal point of the offense NEVER works out with the lone exceptions being dump offs at the basket with him wide open, and him making a pass/hand off from the elbow. Ajinca has some post moves, but he's really a jump shooter. It's not like Utah made adjustments at half time and took away what was working (I guess maybe they took Tyreke's easy looks away a bit), the Pelicans intentionally went to an offense that wasn't geared to the strengths of the players on the court and surprise, surprise it didn't work and lead to easy baskets for Utah and we lost control of the game. Instead of drawing up plays for Asik they should have been coming up with new ways to get Gordon open.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:47 am to
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but to me the game slipped away in that stretch in the 3rd where they tried to switch to a post offense featuring Asik and Ajinca.


What was truly baffling to me was re-watching the turnovers on NBA.com. It was what I expected, but the majority of Gordon's came at the corner/elbow. Not only are your points valid about running through them, but the PnR they were running was often times run from the furthest spot from the basket. It made no sense. The spacing didn't make sense. When Gordon and Reke were in trouble, the bigs were the outlets. I just really have no clue what the desired outcome was. A combined 30-40 from Asik/Ajinca after they just physically dominated the Jazz?

It's one thing when a plan goes awry. It's another when you devise a plan that has zero chance of going anywhere but awry. One would think without Davis and Anderson, you would try to strengthen the positive pieces you had available to you. Monty tried to pull a fast one...with Ajinca and Asik...on offense.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:58 am to
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I just really have no clue what the desired outcome was.


The only thing I can think of is "Lets get these guys a few touches so they stay interested on defense." I completely understand that logic, but that means you tell Asik to wait for Gordon's pass near the basket, not try and post him up 10-15 feet away from the basket. You tell Ajinca to pop to his mid range spot after setting a pick.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:39 pm to
Just going to bump this thread after last night.

27-26. Unreal.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:51 pm to
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With Davis on the court, the Pelican score 5.5 net points per 100 possessions more than their opposition. When he is on the bench, they get outscored by 8.4 points.

LINK

If this team gets healthy and stays healthy after the AS Break they can make it happen.
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