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Monday Night Raw Thread: Ziggler's Screwed Edition

Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:03 pm
Posted by lsudiva2010
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:03 pm
Dirt sheets are reporting today that while Vince was adamant he didn't want another triple threat main event for this year's mania, he has apparently listened to the (whining) internet and is about to give the people what they want: DB in the main event.
While this is swell for Bryan who is still technically an injury risk and did spend nine months of the shelf this year with a neck injury that almost destroyed his career, this kills DB vs. Ziggler for Mania and basically screws the guy who has truly busted his hump this year, and, for the most part, kept himself out of the doghouse.
So great for Bryan. Sucks for Ziggler.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:05 pm to
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Posted by 504Voodoo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:11 pm to
Until Ziggler changes his persona (The bright/loud colors have to go) I am not sure if he will ever be seen as a main event guy. It is rather unfortunate Because he is quite the talent
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

Ziggler

You spelt it wrong.

Posted by slapahoe
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:25 pm to
Possible Stinger return tonight on RAW
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:26 pm to
But Bryan will still lose so it's just delaying the inevitable. What a dumb old man
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:26 pm to
Ziggler was never going to get a real push, he was nothing but a stand in for the injured roman reigns this year.
Posted by lsudiva2010
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:30 pm to
Perhaps and likely, but that doesn't mean that the IWC's ire isn't actually hurting people and, in this case, it has claimed one of its own as a victim.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:31 pm to
I'm still calling bullshite on this. There's no way vince is going to pull the trigger on that match turning into a 3 way.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:32 pm to
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette
Posted by lsudiva2010
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:33 pm to
So then DB is the only one that matters right?
The rest of the entire roster be damned?
How is this viewpoint any different from Vince's Cena is the only one that matters viewpoint?

The IWC has become what it hates the most, short-sighted and one-track minded.
Posted by 504Voodoo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:36 pm to
There is no way the WWE brass turns the main event at mania into a 3 way two years in a row. It is a complete and utter dismissal of the whole concept of the rumble winner going to mania. I get it. The fans didn't like Roman winning but adding Bryan to a 3 way would be a mistake.
Posted by 504Voodoo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:39 pm to
There is no way that Vince believes Bryan is the way to go. All the rumors are that they don't think Bryan is over but that it is his "Yes" chant that is over with the fans. How insane is that?
Posted by ArkanSONE
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

So then DB is the only one that matters right?
The rest of the entire roster be damned?
No, Ziggler, Ambrose, Rollins, Wyatt, Lesnar, Rusev, Barrett, Cesaro, Harper, Sandow, as well as almost the entirety of the NXT roster all matter to most of the IWC.

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How is this viewpoint any different from Vince's Cena is the only one that matters viewpoint?
Becuase the IWC doesn't believe that Bryan in the only one that matters, they believe that he is the most deserving.
Posted by bubbz
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:41 pm to
You know how I know your gay? You're name is Georgethegreek.
Posted by lsudiva2010
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:42 pm to
Not going to lie, that does sound similar to Vince's stance on Cena:
Cena is most important due to brand, which ends up reading as Cena is the only one that matters...
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:42 pm to
The idea that the iwc could affect multiple pushes is laughable. Dolph is going nowhere, that's painfully obvious. Ambrose hasn't won a ppv match since the shield. So if it's Bryan or bust, damn Skippy I'll pick Bryan.
Posted by ArkanSONE
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Not going to lie, that does sound similar to Vince's stance on Cena:
Cena is most important due to brand, which ends up reading as Cena is the only one that matters...
The IWC views Daniel Bryan as the most important because he's the best wrestler in a wrestling company. Unlike Vince with Cena, he's not the only person they care about. They want good things out of a multitude of wrestlers. They just think that Daniel Bryan, who is arguably the most over man since Austin and Rock, to be treated like he matters.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:50 pm to
A lot of it is watching punk be denied the main event at multiple ppvs during his title run and refusing to let that happen to Bryan.

The idea this is hurting Dolph is just hilarious, the man isn't getting any push. Vince doesn't believe in him at all. At least with Bryan they have to acknowledge how the yes chant has gone main stream.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 5:54 pm
Posted by bubbz
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:51 pm to
I kind of agree, I don't see Dolph getting a push anytime soon. He is always going to be relegated to the Midcard. Last thing I read was him tagging up with Ryback.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 5:52 pm
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