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Interstellar question (Spoilers)
Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:09 pm
I am stupid when it comes to science terms so forgive me if I misword something or come off as ignorant. My question is why in the hell does the advanced race care about making a tesseract for Cooper to relay messages to his daughter? If the advanced race is that advanced then past events shouldn't matter, right?
And if past events did need to occur, couldn't they have found a much easier way to make it happen?
And if past events did need to occur, couldn't they have found a much easier way to make it happen?
This post was edited on 1/31/15 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:10 pm to 13SaintTiger
Probably should edit that title. It's super spoliery
And the advanced race doesn't exist without humanity living because they are an advanced form of humanity. They are ensuring that they live
Unless you want to debate Time Travel plot holes, in which we will be here all day
And the advanced race doesn't exist without humanity living because they are an advanced form of humanity. They are ensuring that they live
Unless you want to debate Time Travel plot holes, in which we will be here all day
This post was edited on 1/31/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:18 pm to wildtigercat93
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And the advanced race doesn't exist without humanity living because they are an advanced form of humanity. They are ensuring that they live
An advanced race capable of what was projected in the movie seems like they wouldn't need past events to occur as they did, rather they can alter the past. Why do they need to use Cooper and his daughter to ensure that they live? Why not Brand or her Father? They could've chose anyone and sent any message it seems.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:20 pm to wildtigercat93
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Unless you want to debate Time Travel plot holes, in which we will be here all day
No, I dont. Time and relativity as far as the movie goes, wasn't one of my concerns. It didn't make any sense to me but I was intrigued.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:26 pm to 13SaintTiger
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An advanced race capable of what was projected in the movie seems like they wouldn't need past events to occur as they did, rather they can alter the past. Why do they need to use Cooper and his daughter to ensure that they live? Why not Brand or her Father? They could've chose anyone and sent any message it seems.
Well, Brand had to first go in the black hole for that to happen, and Cooper instead sacrificed himself. Pretty simple.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:31 pm to OMLandshark
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Well, Brand had to first go in the black hole for that to happen, and Cooper instead sacrificed himself. Pretty simpl
I mentioned Brand but not in specificity. They could've sent a message to her or whoever when she was back on earth.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 6:51 pm to 13SaintTiger
Everything you need to know is here.
The One & Only Everything You Would Ever Want to Argue About Interstellar
The One & Only Everything You Would Ever Want to Argue About Interstellar
Posted on 1/31/15 at 7:19 pm to flvelo12
I do wonder what happened to Cooper's daughter after he ejected himself from the ship but before he got to the tesseract because at that point 51 years had passed. She probably died of old age.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 7:22 pm to 13SaintTiger
?
Once he came out the wormhole, you got that answer correct?
Once he came out the wormhole, you got that answer correct?
Posted on 1/31/15 at 7:33 pm to 13SaintTiger
It's kinda like sex, you can have a damn good time without having to know how everything works.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:00 pm to sbr2
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? Once he came out the wormhole, you got that answer correct?
No. During the slingshot from gargantua, 51 more years had passed and Cooper had yet to make it to the Tesseract. Between Cooper ejecting himself and making it to the Tessearact, Cooper's daughter had not received the binary code on the watch so she hadn't figured out anything which leads me to assume she died of old age. I guess it's a plot hole or an alternate timeline.
This post was edited on 1/31/15 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:13 pm to 13SaintTiger
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I do wonder what happened to Cooper's daughter after he ejected himself from the ship but before he got to the tesseract because at that point 51 years had passed. She probably died of old age.
Huh? She was like 30 when he gave her the answers, 51 years may have passed but she was still alive when he talked to her on the ship
Unless I'm missing something here
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:24 pm to 13SaintTiger
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During the slingshot from gargantua, 51 more years had passed and Cooper had yet to make it to the Tesseract. Between Cooper ejecting himself and making it to the Tessearact, Cooper's daughter had not received the binary code on the watch so she hadn't figured out anything which leads me to assume she died of old age.
To be honest, the only part that Cooper and Murph's timelines are relevant to one another are when he's on Mann's planet and he finds out about the entire thing being a farce. For all we know, it could have taken her another year or two before she figured out the whole watch thing. Yes, 51 years pass, but not exactly when he's slingshotting through Gargantua (although it does for Brand). Time becomes meaningless to Cooper when he's in the Tesseract, and then he's ejected in a time that's a bit more relevant to him.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:26 pm to wildtigercat93
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Huh? She was like 30 when he gave her the answers, 51 years may have passed but she was still alive when he talked to her on the ship
51+ years had passed before he made it to the tesseract to give her the answers. Before he entered the tesseract and after ejecting himself, she was way older than 30, probably 80 something and he had not been able to give her the answers yet.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:30 pm to wildtigercat93
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Interstellar question (Spoilers)
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I do wonder what happened to Cooper's daughter after he ejected himself from the ship but before he got to the tesseract because at that point 51 years had passed. She probably died of old age.
Huh? She was like 30 when he gave her the answers, 51 years may have passed but she was still alive when he talked to her on the ship
Unless I'm missing something here
You are not missing anything Saint is forgetting that time was physical within the tesseract.
the tesseract could manipulate time...it didnt matter how long it took cooper to fall in or orbit gargantuan, cooper was able to interact with every second in the past and transcend time thru gravity because it was made physical for him in the tesseract.
when the tesseract is folding up when he asks 'what next'...the future humans placed him at the appropriate time to go back, see his mother and then save/join Bran by going back thru the wormhole for only minutes would have passed for her
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:31 pm to OMLandshark
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Time becomes meaningless to Cooper when he's in the Tesseract, and then he's ejected in a time that's a bit more relevant to him.
If I'm not mistaken, before he got to the black hole he even says 51 years has passed. They are obviously using earth years so it isn't meaningless to his daughter. So once again, i propose its and alternate timeline. Time is only irrelevant once he actually makes it to the tesseract, not before.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:34 pm to Cruiserhog
I understand time was physical in the tesseract. Regardless of the tesseract, before Cooper got there life on Earth was still happening. 51 years on Earth passed before Cooper got to the black hole.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 8:40 pm to 13SaintTiger
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I understand time was physical in the tesseract. Regardless of the tesseract, before Cooper got there life on Earth was still happening. 51 years on Earth passed before Cooper got to the black hole.
Well Cooper couldnt have know he was going to survive so his concern was getting the information back at that point.
I see your point and yes I guess it was/could be an alternate timeline but once cooper was in the tesseract nothing after that matter as he could manipulate time whereever/whenever he wanted.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:00 am to 13SaintTiger
The way I see it is Murphys Law " anything that can happen, will happen" a type of being that has found a way to understand a singularity or a 4th demention can use it to their use because it has already happened or they knew it was going to happen. To try to answer your question, it is that nobody knows. Find out what is inside a Black Hole and you will have your answer.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 2:12 am
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