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Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:53 am to Forkbeard3777
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Basketball in Kentucky, Indiana, North Carolina
You are good at what you focus on, there are 21 million people in those 3 states and they only produce one school that is decent in football.
And Notre Dame gets 90% of their players from states outside of those 3.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:04 am to Buckeye Backer
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The state of Ohio > Indiana and Kentucky in basketball
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Ohio State supports both football and basketball.
Great. I guarantee you that if polled every Ohio State alum and fan their preference between football and basketball, 9/10 would go with Buckeye football. If anything, Ohio is a "blue blood" state in football, not basketball.
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I have always found it interesting that schools like Indiana, Kentucky and Kansas (blue bloods of basketball), actually are states that dont produce as much talent as people think.
You don't say...
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:09 am to TigerintheNO
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You are good at what you focus on, there are 21 million people in those 3 states and they only produce one school that is decent in football.
And Notre Dame gets 90% of their players from states outside of those 3.
How do you explain this?
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It obviously isn't strictly due to UK, UL, IU, Duke, UNC, NC St....
Small schools and satellite schools consistently have success year in and year out: Western Kentucky, Murray State, Indiana State, Butler, Ball State, Wake Forest, Morehead State, Eastern Kentucky, Valporaiso, Davidson, Charlotte, UNC-Asheville, UNC-Wilmington, etc....
The fans are extremely passionate and knowledgable about basketball and it isn't even their flagship schools...
I'm not sure of the fan support of college basketball at directional and satellite schools in Louisiana, but I'd be willing to bet that they don't even sniff the fanaticism and support of these schools. They don't in Michigan. I guarantee you the majority of the schools listed have had a significant amount of success compared to the Louisiana directionals and satellites as well.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:14 am to Forkbeard3777
Ex-Popcorn
You should travel more and watch Hoosiers less.
Actually I live in Crane, In about 30 miles from B-Town (Bloomington). It is all farm land here with corn everywhere. Our county rec football team played at Larks Ranch in Martin County. The field was cut into a corn farm.
Now when you go an hour away to Terre Haute or 90 miles north in Indy it gets different with a much larger populace. The team nicknames are weird in this state. Vincennes is the Alices, Martinsville is the Artisans, Washington Hatchets, Dubose Jeeps, Shoals Jug Rox!
You should travel more and watch Hoosiers less.
Actually I live in Crane, In about 30 miles from B-Town (Bloomington). It is all farm land here with corn everywhere. Our county rec football team played at Larks Ranch in Martin County. The field was cut into a corn farm.
Now when you go an hour away to Terre Haute or 90 miles north in Indy it gets different with a much larger populace. The team nicknames are weird in this state. Vincennes is the Alices, Martinsville is the Artisans, Washington Hatchets, Dubose Jeeps, Shoals Jug Rox!
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:15 am to gameovergt
LINK
that's a link from North Daviess that we played. We had to take on their JV team with our varsity. There was a kid on our team that already graduated high school but was allowed to participate b/c we are a rec team and he didn't turn 19 until after September 1st.
Also the high school my kids go to have Amish students until they complete 8th grade.
that's a link from North Daviess that we played. We had to take on their JV team with our varsity. There was a kid on our team that already graduated high school but was allowed to participate b/c we are a rec team and he didn't turn 19 until after September 1st.
Also the high school my kids go to have Amish students until they complete 8th grade.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 9:18 am
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:22 am to Forkbeard3777
Just a culture thing. I grew up in the heart of NC, as a Duke fan. You grow up hearing stories, going to tournaments, watching records being broken and stuff like that. Its the same thing as people who grow up in the deep south being crazy about football. I loved the NFL growing up, but wasn't a big college football fan until I came to LSU. Up there, nobody really cares about football. Its always when's basketball season?
You could even look at professional sports too. The Charlotte Hornets sold out the Charlotte Coliseum for years and led the league in attendance. The Hornets never won a title but people loved them before Shinn started banging cheerleaders
You could even look at professional sports too. The Charlotte Hornets sold out the Charlotte Coliseum for years and led the league in attendance. The Hornets never won a title but people loved them before Shinn started banging cheerleaders
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:01 am to Forkbeard3777
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Small schools and satellite schools consistently have success year in and year out: Western Kentucky, Murray State, Indiana State, Butler, Ball State, Wake Forest, Morehead State, Eastern Kentucky, Valporaiso, Davidson, Charlotte, UNC-Asheville, UNC-Wilmington, etc....
The fans are extremely passionate and knowledgable about basketball and it isn't even their flagship schools...
Some of the list above have had success in the NCAA, or before that in the NIT.
Western KY went to the finals in NCAA vs Villanova in the 70's or 80's and in the 40's in the NIT finals when it was the bigger deal.
Charlotte won it all.
Murray went to the final four in the NIT when it was a bigger deal.
Indiana State went to the finals of the NCAA.
Also, many of these smaller schools have some really big arenas.
They can make money.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:19 am to BluegrassBelle
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Now quote me championships in the last ten years from your D1 all the way down to NAIA schools in Ohio in basketball. Then get back to me.
University of Findlay - NCAA D2 National Champs 09'
Walsh Univerisity - NAIA National Champs 05'
Otterbein Univerisity - NCAA D3 National Champs 04'
Not to mention Ohio State has been in the Final Four 3 times since 1999 (99', 07', 12')
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:34 pm to Forkbeard3777
Like others said, KY doesn't have mega huge public high schools like you'll find in many States especially Texas. Counties in KY are tiny and even in tiny rural counties there may be two or three public high schools. Even in the large cities, there are a bunch of smaller schools rather than a few huge ones.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 2:50 pm to Buckeye Backer
Well we have Kentucky and Louisville both with NCAA D1 Championships since '05.
Bellarmine won D2 in 2011. Kentucky Wesleyan has around 8 D2 championships but they're pre-2005.
Georgetown has 2 NAIA championships (1998, 2003). Pikeville won in 2011.
Bellarmine won D2 in 2011. Kentucky Wesleyan has around 8 D2 championships but they're pre-2005.
Georgetown has 2 NAIA championships (1998, 2003). Pikeville won in 2011.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:00 pm to Forkbeard3777
At the high school level, at least in NC, I still feel like football is #1. I would argue that NC produces more elite football/baseball prospects than basketball (excluding Kinston).
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