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re: La. higher ed cuts could go well over $300 million...
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:23 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:23 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Where are your legislators? They need to take responsibility too!
definitely
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:27 pm to Slippy
Good. Obviously wasted if only barely above Bama/Mississippi.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:30 pm to Slippy
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Jindal is a worthless coward.
And you voted for him how many times?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:31 pm to gaetti15
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here is a novel solution...
how about we get a new constitution?
The one that says we don't only need to cut from higher education and health care.
Haven't seen a politician mention this
They haven't mentioned it because it isn't true. They are counting on misinformed people like you to perpetuate the belief.
From a technical standpoint, they can easily cut from any agency that gets money from the general fund, which is a large chunk of what your typical state agency gets its funding from.
What you are talking about is a common sense law that prevents the governor from creating his own budget by himself. Who in their right mind would want that? All he can do is cut a certain programs in higher ed and healthcare + a percentage from executive departments. If he wants to cut deeper then he needs to call the legislature into session.
In terms of the $1.6 billion budget deficit for the upcoming fiscal year, they can make those cuts during the legislative session. Jindal is basically king and he is the one who starts the ball rolling by providing a budget proposal to the legislature.
The more you know..
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:37 pm to Slippy
Jindal is a Dumbass
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:41 pm to tigerbait2010
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Bobby J - easily the worst Gov. In the history of the state.
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I'm not happy LSU isn't getting the sufficient funds your typical flagship university receives from the state, but come on now
I'm not going to say outright that he's the worst, but I definitely think he's in the running. Even the most corrupt governors usually left some sort of legacy that would benefit the state in the long run.
Bobby, on the other hand, has done nothing but use accounting tricks to drive the state into a financial crisis, all to allow him to run for president claiming he didn't raise taxes.
When he leaves office, he will leave higher education - arguably one of the better investments we can make as a state - $1,000,000,000 worse off than when he got here. Good riddance.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:48 pm to krones
To be perfectly frank, the Majority of the Louisiana populace doesn't even value basic education, much less higher ed. Look at the salaries university administration--ridiculously overpaid....Louisiana has more 4 year public schools per capita than any other state...and, when you add to that the far inferior education at the public HBCU's which are sacred cows, no wonder higher ed is in trouble.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:55 pm to Slippy
But where's all the gambling money
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:11 pm to slaphappy
John Alario is the only person to listen to on the Louisiana Budget because he knows it backwards and forwards. He is now publicly saying the amount could be as high as $380 million.
"I think you'll find some courses being shut down. I think you'll find some institutions very much on the verge of shutting down. I think that it would be just devastating, not only for those universities, but for the children who are seeking to improve themselves by seeking that higher education."
Alario says this budget crisis could force as many as 16 campuses across the state to close, including Pennington Biomedical Research Center.
"The extension programs that go to each of the parishes, and in particular effect rural parishes, would certainly be in danger, also. And that would be a big hurt to those areas."
"I think you'll find some courses being shut down. I think you'll find some institutions very much on the verge of shutting down. I think that it would be just devastating, not only for those universities, but for the children who are seeking to improve themselves by seeking that higher education."
Alario says this budget crisis could force as many as 16 campuses across the state to close, including Pennington Biomedical Research Center.
"The extension programs that go to each of the parishes, and in particular effect rural parishes, would certainly be in danger, also. And that would be a big hurt to those areas."
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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people of average intelligence getting degrees with limited economic use, devaluing the degrees for everyone else, is a bad thing
I got my undergrad degrees from LSU thanks to TOPS
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:23 pm to TigerGman
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And you voted for him how many times?
Once. Didn't take long after that to figure out what we were dealing with.
I think Jindal's higher ed strategy is to let schools wither on the vine until they have to close. It avoids having to make politically tough decision. And there will always be the hometown politician who will fight to keep them open.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:29 pm to Asgard Device
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terms of the $1.6 billion budget deficit for the upcoming fiscal year, they can make those cuts during the legislative session. Jindal is basically king and he is the one who starts the ball rolling by providing a budget
But he has to have legislative approval, no? I'm not defending Jindal, but to blame him alone for the current state of fiscal affairs is wrong. Every legislator has a vote. They need to be held accountable as well. Otherwise they'll just get on the bandwagon, make the Gov the scape goat and do nothing to solve the problem.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:47 pm to tigerinthebueche
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But he has to have legislative approval, no? I'm not defending Jindal, but to blame him alone for the current state of fiscal affairs is wrong. Every legislator has a vote. They need to be held accountable as well. Otherwise they'll just get on the bandwagon, make the Gov the scape goat and do nothing to solve the problem.
That argument might fly in other states, but Louisiana's governor has more power than the governor of any other state, bar none. If he wants something, it's extremely difficult for the legislature to stop him. If he doesn't want something, it's extremely difficult for the legislature to push him out of the way. It all starts and ends with him.
Worst governor in the state's history? There are a lot of contenders. I'd say Jindal is right up there near the top. What's indisputable, though, is that Jindal has wasted more potential than any governor in recent memory. He's smart, energetic, and came into office with tremendous political capital. He could have leveraged that into fundamentally changing the state for the better. Instead, he's done nothing for Louisiana, and has singlemindedly focused on indulging his own foolish ambition. He'll be gone soon enough, leaving the next guy to clean up his mess. At least we'll get to enjoy the spectacle of his humiliation on the 2016 campaign trail
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:29 pm to MrLSU
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including Pennington Biomedical Research Center.
You really can't understate how big of a blow this would be to LSU's reputation
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:39 pm to tigerbait2010
If these cuts are put in place (projection of 60M for LSU, IIRC) the state will only account for funding 6% of LSU's entire budget. Absolutely ridiculous
Eta: I'd love to talk to James Richardson r/e our current situation. I took him for Public Finance last semester and he taught me so much
Eta: I'd love to talk to James Richardson r/e our current situation. I took him for Public Finance last semester and he taught me so much
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:53 pm to GeorgeReymond
But dem Iowa voters, doe.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:14 am to GeorgeReymond
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If these cuts are put in place (projection of 60M for LSU, IIRC) the state will only account for funding 6% of LSU's entire budget. Absolutely ridiculous
Eta: I'd love to talk to James Richardson r/e our current situation. I took him for Public Finance last semester and he taught me so much
LSU is about to be a private school
6 percent... should be enough to be enough to force the state to take the handcuffs off the university and let it be independent
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:21 am to MrLSU
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Alario says this budget crisis could force as many as 16 campuses across the state to close, including Pennington Biomedical Research Cente
Pennington won't close.
It may very well be the state's greatest asset.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 12:22 am
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:34 am to Cs
I agree. They're using it as a scare tactic, similar to when they released that Craft & Hawkins (PETE) may lose their accreditation due to lack of funding last spring. I think we all know LSU would never allow this 
These sectors catch the eye more than cutting from humanities, arts, etc.
These sectors catch the eye more than cutting from humanities, arts, etc.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:40 am to Slippy
LSU needs more autonomy to raise/lower tuition as they see fit.
If it does, I'll be with the crowd of pissed off people with pitchforks on the capital steps.
This is kind of ironic. The oil price collapse in the 1980s killed things like Catfish town and other developments downtown and doomed places like Gardere.
Just as Baton Rouge comes into it's own and digs itself out from the last energy collapse, oil prices fall rapidly again.
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Pennington won't close
If it does, I'll be with the crowd of pissed off people with pitchforks on the capital steps.
This is kind of ironic. The oil price collapse in the 1980s killed things like Catfish town and other developments downtown and doomed places like Gardere.
Just as Baton Rouge comes into it's own and digs itself out from the last energy collapse, oil prices fall rapidly again.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 12:47 am
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