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Question for 777Tiger and other big jet pilots

Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:17 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23469 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:17 pm
What do you think about the issues that come up from time to time where pilots lose control of a plane because they are fighting the automatic systems? I understand that it is more of an issue with pilots from Asian countries and that pilots trained in the U.S. are more attuned to actually flying the plane.

I'm assuming that with most major airlines that the pilots who are flying the jets are experts at addressing issues that can't be covered by the automatic flight systems.

My dad (career USMC pilot) says "it doesn't matter who your pilot is until things go wrong."

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:18 pm to
well the last plane shouldn't have been flying through that thunderstorm to begin with....i will let the pilots answer the questions though
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23469 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:19 pm to
I'm not being disrespectful to the pilots. I have a great deal of confidence in airline pilots, at least with the airlines I fly on.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:20 pm to
I didn't say you were I am interested to see the responses.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:25 pm to
combination of training, experience, and in some cases culture, and not a small part is the corporate climate at the airline, most airlines exceed the FAA standards when it comes to training and experience requirements, however that isn't the case with some of the "fly by nights," and certainly not the case with a lot of foreign carriers, your dad is correct, we don't get paid for when things are operating normally, having said that, there I go but for...
Posted by stringer_bell
Member since Jun 2012
113 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:30 pm to
What are your thoughts about alternate law setups on Airbus jets? I found the whole situation with AF447 to be really weird. My pilot experience is shite, and only involves rickety pipers, so I don't know much about control setups on commercial jets.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11679 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

777Tiger

You fly commercially or for a carrier like FedEx?
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:38 pm to
Do you know much about Qatar Airways or Emirates? In terms of corporate climate, training, etc I mean.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

I understand that it is more of an issue with pilots from Asian countries and that pilots trained in the U.S. are more attuned to actually flying the plane


I think the issues with Asian pilots is that the copilots never question the authority of the pilots. I believe that is what caused the crash at SFO a few years ago.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

What are your thoughts about alternate law setups on Airbus jets? I found the whole situation with AF447 to be really weird. My pilot experience is shite, and only involves rickety pipers, so I don't know much about control setups on commercial jets.


most of my experience has been in Boeing jets, what little I know about Airbus is from friends that fly it/teach on it, and reading accident reports, some of their design logic seems funny to me, the positive outcome from catastrophes such as Air France 447 is that systems/procedures are usually changed for the better, always striving to reduce/eliminate the odds of it happening again
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:51 pm to
Can turbulence take a plane down?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Can turbulence take a plane down?



Of course, some have been ripped apart.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:16 pm to
Do you partake in this sort of activity?

Extra $$$ for FA

Hopefully, not while flying!! lol
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