re: Imagine a jam band with a decent songwriter

Robert hunter
john perry Barlow

the difference between the dead and "jam bands" is that the jam bands grew up listening to the dead, and the dead grew up listening to everything

Medeski, martin and wood write some great songs.

Yeah, ABB and the Dead had nothing but shitty songs.

I don't think it really had anything to do with what by listened to - I mean obviously they garnered some influence from this but they would have written great songs no matter when they came about.

And I'm fairly sure the members most big "jam bands" probably also have a very diverse collection of music they grew up listening to.

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Fab4Freddy
Imagine a jam band with a decent songwriter
What? Really?

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I would argue that musicians now have actually more influences because of the ease of access to music.

Its just much different influences, the dead and that generation were influenced heavily by the stuff they heard growing up. Same goes for now, but having the 80s as the music you listened to as a child is gonna shape your music in a certain way.

I know the Allmans were greatly influenced by a concert they saw at Nashvilles Municipal Auditorium, featuring BB King, Otis Redding and Jackie Wilson

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No, they aren't.

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Yes, they are.

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ABB is a blues band

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Then The Grateful Dead is a folk band
Widespread Panic is a southern rock band
Phish is a prog rock band and
String Cheese is a blue grass band

I don't see how some of you are incapable of understanding that the term "jam band" doesn't have anything to do with a genre.

As far as a definition:

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Jam bands are musical groups whose live albums and concerts relate to a unique fan culture that began in the 1960s with The Grateful Dead, and continued with The Allman Brothers Band, which had lengthy jams at concerts. The performances of these bands typically feature extended musical improvisation ("jams") over rhythmic grooves and chord patterns, and long sets of music that can often cross genre boundaries.[1] The Grateful Dead continued to grow their fanbase in the second half of the 1980s. In the mid-1980s the bands Phish, Edie Brickell & New Bohemians, Blues Traveler, Ozric Tentacles, Widespread Panic, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Spin Doctors, Col Bruce Hampton and Aquarium Rescue Unit, began touring with Jam band-style concerts. In the early 1990s, a new generation of bands was spurred on by The Grateful Dead's touring and the increased exposure of The Black Crowes, Phish, Dave Matthews Band, Widespread Panic and Aquarium Rescue Unit.

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Now please go be wrong elsewhere

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So ABB isn't a southern rock and blues band?

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Sure they are.

But being a blues band doesn't disqualify a band from being a jam band. As a matter of fact you'd be hard pressed to find a jam band who didn't have quite a few blues sounds.

Widespread Panic isn't music

It's ear piss