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Did Brady contradict himself?

Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:55 pm
He said the perfect ball for him is a ball with 12.5 psi. By saying that he acknowledges that he can feel the ball at 12.5 psi. But he later said he felt no difference with the deflated balls.

If something is perfect to you then you can tell when it's not perfect. If Brunell and Bettis can easily tell the difference, Brady can. Brady is lying.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to
His point, which I don't necessarily buy, is that he focuses on it and really tests it before hte game, but during the game there's not enough time to be sure whether the ball is 12.5 exactly.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to
Obviously he's lying. That said, I still hope they destroy the Seahawks.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to
Ok
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Brady is lying.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:59 pm to
the integrity of the game is important.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:02 pm to
Yeah, according to him, pregame he put do much emphasis on the balls being right. But during the game, he oblivious to it.

If a professional says that a certain equipment is perfect for him, he can tell the slightest differences when it is altered. This goes with golfers and clubs, baseball players and bats, basketball players and shoes, tennis players and rackets, etc...
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:03 pm to
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If Brunell...can easily tell the difference


Brunell = sore loser to the Patriots in 1997 which kept him out of the Super Bowl that year.

Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:04 pm to
What about bettis? He's a sore loser too?
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:05 pm to
The pace of the game of football is much different than most others. And you're not bouncing the football like basketball. I don't think he'd notice. I think this is stupid.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Black n Gold
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:11 pm to
And D'Qwell Jackson?
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:28 pm to
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The pace of the game of football is much different than most others. And you're not bouncing the football like basketball. I don't think he'd notice. I think this is stupid.


Have you ever thrown a football? Have you noticed that oh shite, I don't like that ball, or oh that one is kinda flat.

Now amplify that to a person whom isn't a fat piece of shite and whose job is to primarily throw a football. Pretty obvious to anyone with common sense that yes he would notice.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

He said the perfect ball for him is a ball with 12.5 psi. By saying that he acknowledges that he can feel the ball at 12.5 psi. But he later said he felt no difference with the deflated balls.



He usually has the ball in his hands for less than 3 seconds max at a time during a game and is probably kinda distracted.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
614 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:33 pm to
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He usually has the ball in his hands for less than 3 seconds max at a time during a game and is probably kinda distracted.


THIS. Anyone who says otherwise is a fricking idiot.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:42 pm to
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His point, which I don't necessarily buy, is that he focuses on it and really tests it before hte game, but during the game there's not enough time to be sure whether the ball is 12.5 exactly
This.

During the pre-game ball selection, his entire focus is on the ball selection. Once he finds the footballs he likes and wants to use, there's no reason for him to give them a second thought once they are brought into the game. Even if he thinks that something doesn't feel quite right, it doesn't matter since those are the balls that were selected (how many times do QBs ask for a new ball just because it doesn't feel right once they're on the field?)

He could be lying about the whole thing, but I don't find it far-fetched that he (or any QB for that matter) doesn't give the ball a ton of thought after he gets into the game, assuming there isn't a drastic change to it. Sometimes the PSI does decrease, so even if he could tell a difference, if he's truly innocent, there's no reason to assume that he would automatically know it had an illegal amount of inflation.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:45 pm to
My issue is, who gave the command? I don't see anyone on the equipment staff fricking with the game balls without the QBs knowledge and/or authority.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:55 pm to
Who knows? Maybe it was a disgruntled employee that got paid off by the Colts or some anti-Pats fan (I don't believe that was the case, for the record).

Or it could have come directly from anyone with authority in the Patriots organization, including the QB. The problem is that it's all speculation at this point. It could have been an idiot equipment manager with a faulty gauge or it could have been ordered by Brady.

It looks really bad, but without evidence that it was done on purpose to provide a competitive advantage, how do you justify a harsh penalty like suspensions or draft picks?
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:59 pm to
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It looks really bad, but without evidence that it was done on purpose to provide a competitive advantage, how do you justify a harsh penalty like suspensions or draft picks?
It's the NFL.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:59 pm to
Why do we need to create far fetched possibilities instead of looking at what is most likely?

Disgruntled employee? Why not go with... Aliens?
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