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Net Unrealized Appreciation (NUA) question/suggestions for tax benefits

Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:15 pm
Let's say a client, 40 y/o, was terminated and has $100,000 worth of company stock in an ESOP. The cost basis for the stock is $50,000, so the client has $50,000 net unrealized appreciation in the stock.

Let's also assume that the client needs to use $50,000 and he is in the 10% tax bracket.

The way I understand it, if the client takes a full distribution of the stock, in-kind, to a brokerage account, the $50,000 cost basis will be subject to an early-withdrawal penalty and treated as ordinary income immediately. If sold immediately, the $50,000 NUA will be treated as a long-term capital gain and is NOT subject to an early withdrawal penalty.

Question 1: If the stock is sold immediately after it is distributed to the brokerage account, can the client put $50,000 into an IRA such that it is treated as a 60-day rollover, and the $50,000 left will be treated as a long-term capital gain with an effective tax of 0% (10% tax bracket)? Basically, can the client have the best of both worlds?

Question 2: I've found some literature that says the client can roll $50,000 into an IRA directly from the ESOP, then distribute the other $50,000 to a brokerage account. Supposedly the rollover is treated as consisting first of the portion that is includible in gross income, so the $50,000 cost basis would be moved to the IRA. The $50,000 that is moved to the brokerage account will all be NUA, and the client can sell it immediately with long term capital gains treatment, effectively 0%. Is this correct?

Any previous experience with NUA would be greatly appreciated. Most of the literature I've found discusses absolutes of either a full liquidation or a full rollover, but nothing in between. These are the two most helpful things I've found...

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Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7139 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:51 pm to
401(a) plan ( I think "a" is correct. I am rusty at this). Qualified plans. I don't believe capital gains tax is correct. All distributions taxed at current income tax rates of the account owner.

ESOP basics

ESOP distribution
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84904 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:02 am to
Your links discuss a cash distribution. In kind distributions of company stock are handled a bit differently. From the same NCEO website you linked
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:46 am to
It sounds like you are trying to find a form to overcome the economic substance of events. Economically, your client will be getting $50,000 from the ESOP for his current use. The intent of the law is that the $50,000 should first be the taxable portion of the ESOP value, and only then any NUA. I think the doctrine of substance over form precludes getting capital gains ahead of ordinary income. Here is one guy's take on the matter that supports my comments. LINK

Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7139 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:59 am to


Poodle is the CPA if I recall.

Found this nugget:

quote:

You must have a triggering event. These are separating from service with your employer, being age 59 1/2, total disability, and death. You had to buy the stock with pretax contributions and employer matches and your entire vested balance in the plan must be distributed in a lump sum within one tax year, so if you withdraw some money for personal needs, you may disqualify yourself from NUA treatment. Also, you must distribute all assets from all qualified plans at your former employer, not just the one that held the shares of stock. When your plan is distributed, you will deposit the shares in kind in a taxable brokerage account and recognize the basis as a taxable distribution. The basis is basically what you paid for the stock but the plan will determine the basis and the resulting NUA. The NUA of the stock is only taxed when sold and at the long-term capital gains rate that applies at that time. For example, say your 401(k) contains $100,000 dollars of XYZ stock which you bought with pretax contributions for $10,000. You have $90,000 of NUA. If you roll the stock into an IRA, you will pay no tax at the time of sale but when you take a distribution from the IRA, those funds will be taxed as ordinary income. If you instead chose to take out the stock under the NUA tax rules, the $10,000 basis is deemed a taxable distribution from the 401(k). If you are under age 55, you will pay a 10% early withdrawal penalty tax on top of the tax on ordinary income. The $90,000 NUA is not taxed upon distribution until it is sold. If you sell the stock upon distribution, it will be taxed as a long-term capital gain. If you hang on to it, any further appreciation above and beyond the $90,000 is taxed as short-term gain if sold within the year or long-term gain if held longer than a year.


Employer Stock Plans

I believe ESOPs are a type of money purchase plans so the above article may apply.

Key Private Bank has this resource:

Key Bank pdf

This link reinforces much of the above:

ESOPs

FYI: I searched "esops and Net unrealized appreciation" and found this stuff. Hope it helps.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84904 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:39 pm to
Poodle, I appreciate your feedback and I've read your link. Like most NUA articles, it deals with a full distribution or a full rollover, not both.

This is an excerpt from one of the links I've found on the matter:

quote:

Basis Allocation Twist

When Jane moves only a portion of the company stock, she needs to allocate the basis between the NUA stock and that which was rolled over. Since, in our example, the basis was $100,000 and the total company stock was worth $200,000, Jane could elect to rollover only $100,000 worth of the stock to her IRA (along with the other $300,000 of funds), allocating the basis of $100,000 to the rolled over stock. Then, when the remaining $100,000 of stock is moved from the 401(k) to the taxable account, there is no basis to be taxed at ordinary income tax rates. The entire transaction has occurred without tax – and when Jane sells the stock, the entire value is taxed at capital gains rates.

This move is allowed because the tax law states that when there is a partial rollover of an account into an IRA, the rolled portion is “treated as consisting first of the portion that is includible in gross income” – meaning the basis in the stock, plus the other funds in the account.



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