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No Rate Hikes in 2015 After All?

Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:07 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1488 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:07 am
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" - intermediate-term market-based inflation expectations, which have fallen to 2009 levels;

- wage growth falling [to 1.7% per annum] from a fairly stable level of 2% per annum. In particular, “production and nonsupervisory employees” saw a sharp decline in wage growth - in spite of robust growth in payrolls;

- Economists have been expecting the recent strength in US labor markets, including big increases in job openings, to translate into stronger wages. However, just the opposite has taken place.

- Now, combine slowing wage growth with global disinflationary pressures and the collapse in energy as well as other commodity prices.

Putting it all together points to rising risks of deflation in the US. There is absolutely no way the Fed can raise rates in this environment. In fact some Fed officials are quite open about taking any 2015 rate hikes off the table.

Nevertheless, the markets still anticipate the first hike in late Q3/early Q4 of this year. This is somewhat surprising, considering that in the UK, for example, rate hike expectations have been shifted to 2016. "

Ok, this isn't the UK, but they make a good case based on evidence rather than expectations. What evidence to the contrary do we have?

(Don't worry, it's a very short article with lots of pictures. I can't handle anything else. Thanks to Blakely Bimbo for the site.)



Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:52 am to
The only way rates will be raised is when and if the economy actually recovers.
That ain't happening any time soon.
Rates will remain near 0 for the foreseeable future.
Why turn off the spickets now?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 7:51 am to
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Why turn off the spickets now?
What spickets?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:25 am to
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when and if the economy actually recovers.
That ain't happening any time soon.
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I hate seeing and hearing this constantly, sure the economy is not speeding along like it was pre-08. But it's chugging along pretty darn good. The market has hit all time new highs, unemployment is 5.6%, GDP has a positive trend, US is becoming a world leader in oil exportation, and companies are earning record profits.

The economy has certainly changed and adapted and there are many folks with out a job but that's capitalism.

The reason interest haven't risen and probably won't is because we are still the strongest country in the world with the highest interest rates. Our debt is still being bought by other nations. Until Europe gets out of the shitter and the global market becomes more competitive there's not a reason for us to raise those rates.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:30 am to
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The only way rates will be raised is when and if the economy actually recovers.
That ain't happening any time soon.


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37083 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:21 am to
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I hate seeing and hearing this constantly, sure the economy is not speeding along like it was pre-08. But it's chugging along pretty darn good. The market has hit all time new highs, unemployment is 5.6%, GDP has a positive trend, US is becoming a world leader in oil exportation, and companies are earning record profits.

The economy has certainly changed and adapted and there are many folks with out a job but that's capitalism.


Wages aren't growing because we don't have scarcity in labor. Companies aren't going to pay more in wages then they are forced to pay. While this is happening in some segments of the economy (offshore workers), it's not happening broadly.

This is why the quoted unemployment rate is useless. Yes, people have jobs, but they are not experiencing wage growth. The stock market is high because companies have record profits. Companies have record profits, and one reason for that is not having to pay higher wages.
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