Page 1
Page 1
Started By
Message

Here are the actual NFL Rules

Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422782 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:43 pm
quote:

Article 3 Completed or Intercepted Pass.
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds: (a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and (b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and (c) maintains control of the ball long enough, after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, to enable him to perform any act common to the game (i.e., maintaining control long enough to pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent, etc.).

Item 1: Player Going to the Ground.
If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contactingthe ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touchingthe ground, the pass is complete.


Go to pages 43-44
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37900 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete.
/thread
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82366 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contactingthe ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touchingthe ground, the pass is complete.

Seems pretty cut and dry
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33893 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:46 pm to
I think switching hands and reaching out for the ball constitutes a "football move".

But regardless, on this play they are applying that rule as if a player is laying out trying to make a diving catch. It shouldn't be applied to a player who reaches the ball out after catching the ball out of the air.

That's where the rule gets it wrong and lacks common sense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422782 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

/thread

no

quote:

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass


that only applies IF the player is "in the act of completing a pass"

assuming the ball hit the ground (of which there is inconclusive proof), the only issue is if he completed the catch. if he didn't, then that clause applies. if he did, then that clause does not apply

so the only discussion is whether he completed the catch. the focus of that question is if he made a football move (as he caught the ball and got 2 feet in).

so that is the one question: did dez make a football move or not?

/thread
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422782 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Seems pretty cut and dry

yes IF he's in the act of catching a pass, ie, before completing the catch. dez wasn't, in my opinon, so that is inapplicable
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
4928 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contactingthe ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone.


I don't think he was "in the act of catching a pass" when he hit the ground. My eyes told me he clearly had already caught it. It's just a stupid rule that needs to be tweaked.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33893 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:48 pm to
Why is this anchored?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422782 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

I don't think he was "in the act of catching a pass" when he hit the ground. My eyes told me he clearly had already caught it

exactly

and y'all need to request a sticky of this thread
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422782 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Why is this anchored?

no idea. i just requested to have it stickied
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete.

That's the thing though, he didn't lose control when he was going to the ground. He had complete control of the ball and then hit the ground
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27179 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:51 pm to
Besides the other 937 threads on this subject and the shitty thread title I am not sure.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422782 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:53 pm to
oh my bad. did any of the others post the actual rules?

can you link the other 900 threads with links to the rules for me?
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33893 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:56 pm to
I disagree with you and you seem angry.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram