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re: Milwaukee county's sheriff David A Clarke is killing it on cnn (now with link)

Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Eden
Member since Nov 2014
477 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Eric Holder is the chief law enforcement officer in the nation. Allegiance doesn't always fall the way you're describing it falls.

Sure, but do you expect a rank-and-file police officer, on balance, to fall on the pro-police or anti-police side of the discussion? With Holder, it makes some sense as to why his allegiance would fall differently than his post suggests, because he got his post entirely through navigating the political system instead of working in/through the police department.

I mean, at a minimum, for this to be surprising, it seems like you'd have to assume all black people will fall on the anti-police side, even black people who are themselves police. And while the black demographic does tend to organize politically more monolithically than other ethnic groups in the US, I don't think it's reasonable to assume that it's so monolithic that the average black police officer would be anti-police, y'know?
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:59 pm to
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it makes some sense as to why his allegiance would fall differently than his post suggests

The AG's allegiance is confined to upholding the laws of this nation and seeking truth when his office involves itself in an investigation. Anything outside that limited parameter is not only perplexing but it should be disturbing to every American regardless of race.

Holder was anything but a seeker of truth during Ferguson. Let that be his legacy.

Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:37 pm to
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The AG's allegiance is confined to upholding the laws of this nation and seeking truth when his office involves itself in an investigation. Anything outside that limited parameter is not only perplexing but it should be disturbing to every American regardless of race.

That's it in a nutshell. When we become accepting of an attorney general who brings his own biases and grivenaces into an investigation we're fricked. It should never be accepted by an AG of any political persuasion.
Posted by tigress4life
BR
Member since May 2007
956 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:57 pm to
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The race tactic is just a diversion in order to implement militarization of the police. Now will every precinct or station be more militarized, no. But I don't think any police unit needs MRAPS. That concerns me. Now with that said, mr. Clarke is right on with his comments.



The idea to promote conflict by any means as is necessary to force a reaction by the "state" into finally an over-reaction which touches off a revolt is straight out of Communist ideology as a method to seize power.
Violent acts; terrorist or other criminal acts, riots etc., based victimhood, inequality methodology, whatever, the rationale behind the acts don't actually matter because that's not the important point.
The idea of Engels/Marx/Lenin/Stalin is to promote conflict, any conflict which forces the "State" into reacting to protect society from violent conflicts. The idea is to elevate that necessary to "keep the peace" meaning more restrictive laws, etc., to that of a "police state" so restrictive that the mainstream of a society revolts against those restrictions blaming the "state" for them ( an important idea is the use of "crisis", to promote an incident as a crisis, and to move from crisis to crisis), then Communists who have strategized to get to this moment, hijack the "revolution", and seizes power.
It has worked many times and is the traditional way for communists to seize power, of course other extremists have done so, National Socialists and Muslims extremists hijacked mainstream revolts in Germany and Iran as well.

The Communists in this country with exceptions seemed to have chosen Antonio Scramsci's method of Marxist transformation of "gradualism" which is to transform a society by a "march through" its institutions. Communist's gain control of society's institutions: educational, media,etc. and promote ideals that are communist in nature but not per se presented as communist, and to demean America, its history, its values, etc. eventually after generation and generation away from the Republic ideal which the country is founded on.
And it is working. Most people now don't know that the U.S. is founded on Republicanism, is a Republic, and not a Democracy. How many people now know what an actual Democracy is and why the founders choose a Republic ideal instead.

But getting back; those who are promoting these conflicts are more Critical Race Theory believers: in short every institution in society should be re-made since the founding of that institution as well the founding of the country under the Constitution as well was decided by one race and then therefore is racist and can't be anything but racist, and so should be re-made.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:31 pm to
You said that a lot better than I could. Eventually martial law will be the law of the land and that will be implemented under authoritarianism whether its communism or nazism. Either way it's bad
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