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re: DeBlasio, Obama and every other liberal

Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:03 pm to
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I mean, where do you even start with people who claim there is a genocide against black young men (not self imposed) in America?


That was my qualm with the Ferguson stuff, too. One, Brown was a shitty martyr. The Garner situation is way more sympathetic.

But if we're going to make it a race-based thing and not a militant law enforcement thing, then we've got to look at the other side of the coin and ask why cops look at young black males with suspicion. I also thought the #BlackLivesMatter tag line was terribly ironic considering the rate of black-on-black violence in the inner city.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:04 pm to
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Police said previously the Millers shared an ideology with militia and white supremacists that law enforcement officers were oppressors. The couple was kicked out of an encampment of supporters of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy
So now you believe the police? Why were they kicked out?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:05 pm to
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I have faith they can ratchet it up.
More like hoping for it?
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:06 pm to
at you trying to split these hairs. I don't know why they were kicked out. Probably for being too extreme. However, I've also seen nearly every talking head who commented on Ferguson/Garner denounce the a-hole who killed the cops in NYC.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:07 pm to
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I don't know why they were kicked out. Probably for being too extreme.
Probably

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However, I've also seen nearly every talking head who commented on Ferguson/Garner denounce the a-hole who killed the cops in NYC.
After the fact?

Posted by KCT
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:07 pm to
Liberals like EthanL,ommg, and boosie showing their true colors up in here.

Oh, and 808, the Tea Party has about 8 years of history. That movement has been more peaceful than any protest movement in history. Quit lying. You're certainly no conservative.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:09 pm to
well yeah

I don't think any of them knew the guy was going to execute two cops.

Come to think of it, I don't know if I saw any Tea Party leaders denounce the a-hole sin Las Vegas...? Got a link for me?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:10 pm to
there he is. Two nut jobs leave the Bundy camp and execute two cops in cold blood days later and you don't want to hear about it because it fricks up your causation/correlation argument here?

Shocker.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:11 pm to
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SOCAL TIGER




Fundamental changes will have to be made in police procedure in order for trust to be restored between cops and citizens. I figure it will have to get worse before it gets better. I don't think the police will identify doctrine that needs to be changed I think it will have to be forced on them
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:11 pm to
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Come to think of it, I don't know if I saw any Tea Party leaders denounce the a-hole sin Las Vegas...?
Were they Tea Party Peeps and rejected by the Bundy dorks? Or were they you know crazies like the a-hole that whacked the NYC cops?
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:11 pm to
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But if we're going to make it a race-based thing and not a militant law enforcement thing, then we've got to look at the other side of the coin and ask why cops look at young black males with suspicion. I also thought the #BlackLivesMatter tag line was terribly ironic considering the rate of black-on-black violence in the inner city.



Yeah. I think a national dialogue on race would be awesome if possible, but one side is just going to repeat outlandish and largely inaccurate mantras, and the other is going to resent them for it.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:12 pm to
They certainly shared beliefs with the Tea Party movement.

For the record, I didn't try to link the TP and them then, and I'm not trying to link this a-hole and the Garner stuff now, but I am curious as to how you can distinguish between the two situations.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:13 pm to
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Fundamental changes will have to be made in police procedure in order for trust to be restored between cops and citizens.
Such as? Serious question BTW.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:14 pm to
I can't see a negative to body cameras.

Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:15 pm to
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They certainly shared beliefs with the Tea Party movement.
You have got to be shitting me.

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but I am curious as to how you can distinguish between the two situations.
Never did but only one person drug the assholes from Vegas into this thread.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:16 pm to
Oh, so you're saying the politicians speaking out here in the Ferguson/Garner situation bear no responsibility for the a-hole killing the cops?

Good to know. My mistake
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:16 pm to
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I can't see a negative to body cameras.
Where did this come from?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:17 pm to
You asked that other poster about concrete steps to restore trust...

I don't see a negative to body cameras, but I'm willing to listen if other people may...
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73446 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Oh, so you're saying the politicians speaking out here in the Ferguson/Garner situation bear no responsibility for the a-hole killing the cops?
Where did I say that?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:19 pm to
Well if the Bundy people/ Tea Party bore no responsibility for the Vegas murders, how can those speaking out now about Garner/Ferguson bear any responsibility for this crazy a-hole?

I'm glad the other guy brought the Vegas murders in here because I believe they are quite analogous to this current situation.

If you feel that they aren't, please expound on how they're different.
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