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re: What are the ingredients for sustaining success? (NE, GB, & Denver related)
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:29 am to bountyhunter
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:29 am to bountyhunter
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NFC-S has produced a wildcard team 3 of the last 5 years (including this year)
What?
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Traditionally the NFC-E has been pretty bad. I think they've produced 2 wildcard teams in 5 years, both times the Jets.
What?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:00 pm to JS87
We've won a super bowl more recent than two of these teams and we've beaten gb and new England handidly in recent meetings.
There are no repeat champs any more but Seattle may do it without an expensive qb and we did do it with an elite qb.
Also, it helps to get favorable calls which we don't. Calls go our way we win at Detroit, we win against the niners, and we win vs Atlanta . Give us any one of those games one bad call cost us the game and we are heading into the playoffs with a win next week.
There are no repeat champs any more but Seattle may do it without an expensive qb and we did do it with an elite qb.
Also, it helps to get favorable calls which we don't. Calls go our way we win at Detroit, we win against the niners, and we win vs Atlanta . Give us any one of those games one bad call cost us the game and we are heading into the playoffs with a win next week.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:03 pm to JS87
Also we had draft picks taken from us over bs and a hc suspended an entire season.
Before that bs the saints had the most enduring success in the entire nfl in terms of wins. Since Payton and Brees joined the Saints in 2006 to 2012 no other team had more wins than the Saints in the entire NFL.
Before that bs the saints had the most enduring success in the entire nfl in terms of wins. Since Payton and Brees joined the Saints in 2006 to 2012 no other team had more wins than the Saints in the entire NFL.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:32 pm to JS87
Good drafting and discipline with free agents.
We have had no direction when it comes to drafting players. We don't pick for need and never go BPA after the 1st round which is vital for sustaining success, and the reason we are now scrambling to find replacements for our declining o-line. There have been way too many project picks with most of them not panning out. That speaks to the coaching staff that clearly overestimates its ability to develop players. That point leads me into what may be the biggest problem no one is talking about.
Since winning the Super Bowl, there has been a ton of disillusionment within this organization. They have not moved on from that victory. It's messed with the psychological approach to the game for players, coaches, and management. Just because you went on a great run 5 seasons ago means nothing.
Since the Super Bowl, we have won the NFC South once, won only 2 playoff games and missed the post-season twice. Think about that.
We have had no direction when it comes to drafting players. We don't pick for need and never go BPA after the 1st round which is vital for sustaining success, and the reason we are now scrambling to find replacements for our declining o-line. There have been way too many project picks with most of them not panning out. That speaks to the coaching staff that clearly overestimates its ability to develop players. That point leads me into what may be the biggest problem no one is talking about.
Since winning the Super Bowl, there has been a ton of disillusionment within this organization. They have not moved on from that victory. It's messed with the psychological approach to the game for players, coaches, and management. Just because you went on a great run 5 seasons ago means nothing.
Since the Super Bowl, we have won the NFC South once, won only 2 playoff games and missed the post-season twice. Think about that.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:37 pm to JS87
Green Bay got very lucky that Aaron Rodgers panned out. The Patriots will fall off after Brady.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:51 pm to JS87
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How is it that these teams are able to do it and have high dollar QB's as well?
per LINK /
cap hit by QBs in 2014, rounded to nearest million for easy grouping, the top 25 QBs
$20m: eli
$19m: big ben
$18m: cutler, brees, bradford, rodgers, peyton, mryan
$17m: rivers
$16m: stafford
$15m: brady, flacco
$13m: palmer
$12m: romo
$9m: dalton
$8m: schaub
$7m: cam newton
$6m: luck, rg3, henne, cassel, moore
$5m: jmccown, alex smith
$4m: locker
so lots of high dollar QBs out there...brees is high but pretty well lumped in with the rest of the top 10, within $1m of cap hit amongst like 8 guys.
Next year looks like this (but guys restructure...i'd expect this to change, plus with some new contracts/extensions it will change as well)
$28m: romo
$26m: brees
$22m: peyton
$20m: eli, mryan
$18m: big ben, rodgers, stafford
$17m: rivers, kaepernick, bradford
$16m: cutler, alex smith
$15m: cam newton, flacco
$14m: palmer,
$13m: brady
$10m: dalton
$7m: luck, orton, rg3
$6m: schaub
$5m: jmccown, chase daniel, cassel
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