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Shooting steel through full choke/fixed full choke older guns

Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:26 pm
So answer me these questions

Who has done or still does this?

Who has had a damaged gun as a result?

What is your understanding of the damaged caused to the gun? Just at the muzzle and choke? The entire bore of the barrel from hard steel shot damaging the softer barrel steel?

Do you believe the size of the steel shot matters? For instance is anything smaller than #4 ok but larger increases risk?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56043 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:35 pm to
I did it in an old remington 1100 with a fixed full choke barrel...the damage to the barrel was not apparent, but it did shoot the choke out of it over a couple of years...basically, the pattern kept getting wider and wider and that was the reason...

I just had a modern screw-in choke installed and all was good after that...

ETA: I probably wouldn't shoot steel through a really old gun (i.e. a belgium browning) for fear of rupturing the barrel, etc...
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30337 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:59 pm to
while we are at it on a good shotgun thread....is shooting a foster 1 oz slug thru a smoothbore okay with the largest choke available?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56043 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:02 pm to
I have never heard of a slug damaging a shotgun barrel...I think the wads are plastic in a slug and protect the barrel and the slug...

you have me curious now, though...
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56043 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:05 pm to
from wikipedia (so it has to be true)....

quote:

A modern shotgun slug is a heavy lead or copper-covered lead projectile, with or without a plastic tip, that may have what appears to be rifling, but these are special cuts in the slug to let it deform when passing through a tight choke.
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6213 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:05 pm to
Although i do not have an older gun, I shoot 3.5" T, BB & BBB with my SX3 using a Briley Extreme Range EXR Choke with no problems @ all.

LINK

Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:30 pm to
My understanding was that the fixed full choke may be an issue only due to a longer than normal taper for the choke. Since an interchangeable choke tapers over 3 inches or so vs the 26+ inches of barrel.

also since modern shot shells have thick plastic wads that encase the entire shot load, the bore is protected from any steel on steel damage and only the constriction at the choke is of concern.


So then I have to ask what shot will compress and what shot will not. Supposedly #4 or smaller has enough room to compress where as larger may or may not, but who knows.


I guess ultimately patterning my gun is the thing to do and not shoot full choke.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:34 pm to
My 1100 started life shooting lead with a mod barrel, and I've been shooting steel out of it for almost 20 years. Nothing wrong with it
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