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re: 2 NYPD cops shot and killed while sitting in patrol car

Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98737 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:04 pm to
Since you don't seem to be getting there on your own, I guess I'll help. I asked if you were one of the people that upvoted the killer's post as you were espousing other liberal views, just like those who were up voting it. I never said you were in favor of killing cops, though a certain degree of implication was there. This would have been a great opportunity for you to condemn the murders of the shooter's girlfriend and the police, while still remaining critical of police tactics. You chose a different direction.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78353 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:06 pm to
So wait. You mean if we pile up racial grievance like tinder for weeks, celebrate black criminality and put a figurative target on the back of law enforcement, something bad will happen?

Who knew?

RIP officers. You were a human sacrifice in a broader cultural war, your humanity taken away from you and replaced with caricature. Al Sharpton gets a tv show, millions of dollars and an audience with The President, you get the grave.



Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:07 pm to
What exactly did Deblasio say that's got you people blaming him for a crazy person murdering someone? I remember him saying the NYPD needed to change the way it operates, something most of the libertarians on here would agree with from Rand or someone else on the right. Did he say something else unreasonable? Blaming him for this is fricked up IMO.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:12 pm to
Sad story... Condolences to the families


Looks like this guy was already on a spree and decided to go out a "martyr". He killed his gf two days ago and was on the run.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:14 pm to
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Yes. Let's blame the mayor and the media


I remember when the lefties were bitching about the "Vitriolic rhetoric" that they believe led to Gabby Giffords being shot. I guess it only goes one way. .
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:18 pm to
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The two New York City police officers who were ambushed and killed Saturday afternoon are Wenjin Liu and Rafael Ramos, NYPD Commissioner William Bratton said.
Pretty sure this is an isolated case of insanity and not a burgeoning race war.
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:18 pm to
Both are wrong. The morons in here ascribing blame to third parties were beside themselves in the giffords fallout
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42517 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:28 pm to
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Pretty sure this is an isolated case of insanity

Of course this was an act of insanity.

Ask yourself - what is the probability that this guy would post about killing cops because of arrests gone bad in Ferguson Missouri, and NYC, then gone out and walked up to two innocent cops sitting in a car and shooting them point-blank in the head.

Do you think that the 'protests' based on false narratives in both cases and bolstered by the Mayor and POTUS had NO effect on his actions??

This was not random - this was not in response to an arrest action - this was acting out a NARRATIVE that was being supported by the Mayor and POTUS.

There is no escaping their culpability in this instance.

The many was unstable for sure - and MAY have done something bad sometime.

But he did it NOW in the heat of all the false narrative bullshite being pumped by the mayor and POTUS.

blood on their hands.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:29 pm to


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Two NYPD cops were executed Saturday after a gang member from Baltimore trekked to Brooklyn to kill police officers in a twisted bid to avenge the deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown, sources told the Daily News.

The shooter — identified as Ismaaiyl Brinsley— boasted about wanting to murder cops in the hours before he ambushed the officers outside the Tompkins Houses in Bedford-Stuyvesant around 2:45 p.m. — around the same time Baltimore officers sent a wanted flier to the NYPD.

“I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours...Let’s Take 2 of Theirs,” Brinsley, 28, wrote on Instagram alongside a photo of a silver handgun.

He also included the sick hashtags: #ShootThePolice #RIPErivGarner #RIPMike Brown.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:55 pm to
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So wait. You mean if we pile up racial grievance like tinder for weeks, celebrate black criminality and put a figurative target on the back of law enforcement, something bad will happen? Who knew? RIP officers. You were a human sacrifice in a broader cultural war, your humanity taken away from you and replaced with caricature. Al Sharpton gets a tv show, millions of dollars and an audience with The President, you get the grave.


So the protesting is responsible for the deaths of these officers?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:08 pm to
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When these kinds of incidents occur, Limbaugh said, “I don’t recall one conservative, one Republican, one conservative blogger, making a mad dash to a computer to blame Democrats for what happened.
LINK /

I guess Rush was wrong about this one. So was I.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:09 pm to
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I guess Rush was wrong about this one..
Absolutely.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:19 pm to
Here's what the police union had to say.

quote:

The Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, the city's main police union, blamed de Blasio for the shootings.

"The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies," a statement from the association read, according to The New York Times, "and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a 'wartime' police department. We will act accordingly."


This isn't a right/left issue.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:27 pm to
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This isn't a right/left issue.

THANK YOU
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78353 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:34 pm to
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So the protesting is responsible for the deaths of these officers?


Is this the part where liberals act coy?That is always so charming.

Did you not see the protesters chanting to kill the cops last week ?
Did you not see the two cops viciously attacked by the protesters last week?
Did you not see the police union official on TV this week saying that an environment that was dangerous to cops was being systematically nurtured?

The dude pulled the trigger. He is the individual responsible. Of course. But an ENTIRE COTTAGE INDUSTRY of race pimps and Grievance Professionals nurtured this thing for weeks. They have MORAL CULPABILITY. This did not happen in a total vacuum. It came after weeks of Racial-fueled Anti-cop agitation. And to act as if it is all completely unconnected is the biggest lie of all.



Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:35 pm to
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This isn't a right/left issue.
I haven't said it is. The police union has been saying the same shite about De Blasio since before the shooting. He said the NYPD needed to change the way they police minority neighborhoods, and the union head started squealing. To the extent that the union is unaccustomed to criticism of law enforcement, and wished to silence it, that response is absolutely political however.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:39 pm to
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this the part where liberals act coy?That is always so charming.


I wouldn't know. I'm somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun.
quote:

MORAL CULPABILITY

I don't think you'd like this type of argument coming from the other side. Do police attitudes play a part of the moral culpability in the deaths of civilians?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98737 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:43 pm to
Precisely pimp, as I stated in the OT thread:

quote:

The media coverage didn't in and of itself make the guy go nuts and start killing, but it did provide a focus for his psychosis.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:46 pm to
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It came after weeks of Racial-fueled Anti-cop agitation.
Agitation doesn't pull the trigger, or else all cops would be dead.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:49 pm to
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Agitation doesn't pull the trigger
It can, and it did.
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