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re: IRS is holding your money for ransom....

Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:40 am to
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:40 am to
Who gives a shyt, as long as we get our extra interest on the checks.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:57 am to
There is a tremendous amount of tax refund fraud due to gaps in the system. And its not limited to the IRS. It is so easy to pull off, that many drug dealers have turned to this because it is safer, easier, and the post office delivers their fraudulent checks to their filing address.

First, the IRS is somewhat of an accomplice in this fraud because they don't have adequate safeguards and controls to detect and stop the theft.

Here is how easy it is:

1. Fraudster files tax return using a stolen or in some cases a "purchased" SSN.
2. Fraudster file return using the SSN as a fictious spouse or dependent and takes personal exemption of $6K or $12K if filing joint return. The return is rigged so that the filer gets a relatively large refund.
3. Fraudster files electronically and soon after 1st of year.

Now here is where IRS fricks us all.

The IRS, for most returns filed electronically, simply issues the refund to the filer, without checking the validity of the SSNs on form or sources of income. The return does not get flagged until the real owner of the stolen SSN files. Then an investigation is triggered and it can take up to 6 months for the innocent filer to get his or her refund.

How bad is this problem? Over $17 billion in fraudulent claims have been filed in past 2 years. How do I know this? Because I was a victim in 2013. Didn't get my refund until September 2014. Researched the subject and gave presentation at work.

It doesn't stop there. There crooked "data miners" who hack companies to get the stolen SSNs, & sell the data to legit individuals and businesses everyday. Its a huge problem. One of the purchasers of stolen data was Experian. Their lack of due diligence allowed them to purchase stolen data and and resell it to clients. This happened until FBI showed up. The thief was in Viet Nam and setup a fake company and duped Experian.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:26 pm to
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They are severely understaffed.


lol.. no, no they are not understaffed.

what they are is undermotivated to actually do any work, unless of course, if the Tea Party is involved, then they seem to have a fire lit under their azzes to go in guns ablazing!

well at least that's one small part of the IRS, the rest are busy planning the next vegas vacation's star trek show.

This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 12:33 pm
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