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Guitarists - New amp purchase

Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:24 am
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:24 am
I'm torn between the Fender '65 Twin Reverb and the Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb. Any MB guitarists use one of these and have a recommendation?

The amp will be used mostly at home, but in some bars/restaurants as well. I worry the twin might have too much power, where I couldn't really play the amp loud enough to make it worth it, and it would be difficult to really play at home. With the deluxe, is it going to have enough power to fill a loud room?

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:28 am to
I'd go Deluxe. Great tone. I guess the question is, "How loud of a room are you trying to play without going through a PA?"

Are you set on a Fender? If I were in the market, I'd be all over a Vox AC30

Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:34 am to
That's a good point. I felt like if necessary I could mic the amp (which I would probably do anyway to mix).

I haven't looked into Vox at all, but I am pretty set on Fender. Friend of mine in college had a Twin, and I loved the sound he got from it.
Posted by PPL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:39 am to
If you're wanting to get any break up at all, you'll blow your ear drums out playing a twin at home in a bedroom before you get there. Don't overlook the mighty Princeton Reverb. Mod one with a 12" speaker and it's a better amp than a deluxe, in my opinion.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:41 am to
quote:

I'm torn between the Fender '65 Twin Reverb and the Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb. Any MB guitarists use one of these and have a recommendation? The amp will be used mostly at home, but in some bars/restaurants as well. I worry the twin might have too much power, where I couldn't really play the amp loud enough to make it worth it, and it would be difficult to really play at home. With the deluxe, is it going to have enough power to fill a loud room?

Need more info on what you want out of an amp and what type of music you play? You want to overdrive it with some natural power tube overdrive. Do you want to boost the preamp and get classic rock tones? Do you want a good middle ground with clean headroom that can excel at being boosted at the same time?

The Twin is WAYYYYYY too overkill for jamming at the house. The Deluxe is still 22 watts (20?) which is very loud as well. You have no chance of getting that creamy overdrive (SRV) on the Twin if thats what you like (at house/small venue volumes). If you are just chording and phrasing then I could see how the Twin may be feasible as it has so much headroom that you'll get a real luscious clean with no break up at all but you can realistically get the same thing from the Deluxe as well. I think the Deluxe is the way to go for you as it will give you alot more versatility. It's 22 watts so you will never be covered by a drummer (im assuming you'll be playing blues/jazz/classic rock and not hard rock/metal) and will start to clip at just the right volume to get that greasy blues tone with a boost. Neither of these amps have a master volume so you'll have to crank them to get that nice overdrive. The Deluxe is the way to go for you without knowing what type of music youre playing just based on the versatility it will give you.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 7:50 am
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:44 am to
quote:

The amp will be used mostly at home, but in some bars/restaurants as well


get the Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb out of those two if that's all you're going to be playing.

if it were me, i'd look around craigslist or some pawn shops to see if someone was selling a used one, even vintage. you can usually find some great deals (and cheaper and better quality than the reissues)

look at the vintage champ and vibro champ models... that would really be all you need to play in the places you listed. more than enough sound.

vibro champ

champ demo
champ

more champ

love the champs for restaurant gigs or just bedroom jamming. they can always be mic'd if you're playing venue gig's too. so think about that if you think it's not enough power.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 7:53 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:53 am to
quote:

That's a good point. I felt like if necessary I could mic the amp (which I would probably do anyway to mix).


A friend of mine used to play on Deluxe. In the practice room with drums, bass, and another guitarist playing on a big Orange rig, the Deluxe came through just fine.

quote:

I haven't looked into Vox at all


You should try one at some point, even if you don't buy it. I don't think you can find a warmer tone in a combo amp.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13585 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:54 am to
Do any of those champs have tube reverb? Both of the amps he listed are reverb amps and not tremolo amps so I would assume he's into more blues than anything. Those little amps do sound great though.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:59 am to
nope, no reverb. could always pick up a good reverb pedal though.

or look into my personal favorite tube amps... 60's/70's ampeg gemini/reverbrockets

LINK

these amps have the best tone IMO out of all of the amps from that era. I like vox amps as well, but ampeg was making some killer amps in that time.
Posted by aaronb023
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:04 am to
Deluxe fa sho.

I'm guessing a blues jr is too small for you?
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:07 am to
Yeah, I've always been a southern rock/classic rock/country player, but I've really been liking more bluesy stuff lately. Really like the reverb that these would put out.

I am planning on running a Tube Screamer pedal for my overdrive. I'm definitely wanting a clean sound that can handle a strong boost. I want something that is really a solid amp, versatile, but if it's going to lean one way, I'm wanting more blues/classic rock, definitely nothing heavy.

Blues Jr is smaller than I'm wanting. I hate feeling like I will want to upgrade in a few years, which I could see happening if I went smaller. If I'm spending the money on a new amp now, I'd rather get one that I know will last me for a good while.
Posted by aaronb023
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:13 am to
I don't think you'll be disappointed. shite, I'm jelly. I want a new amp but don't play often enough to justify dropping 700-1000 to my wife
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:18 am to
Oh, this will definitely count as Christmas/anniversary/birthday, I'm sure... Plus, who really needs groceries anyway?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13585 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Blues Jr is smaller than I'm wanting. I hate feeling like I will want to upgrade in a few years, which I could see happening if I went smaller. If I'm spending the money on a new amp now, I'd rather get one that I know will last me for a good while.


The Blues Jr is a fine amp, especially if you buy one that has been modded and upgrade the speaker. Ive owned 3 of them, two original and one modded completely and that modded one was smoking. Is it Deluxe sounding, not quite, but it's close to it. Dimensionally, I'd say they are pretty close to each other as far as size and wattage they are very close as well at 15-22.

Edit: honestly, if youll be playing more classic/southern rock, then the Blues Jr is even more versatile than the Deluxe because it has two volumes, one for preamp and one for poweramp (overall volume). You can get a great classic rock rhythm grind without any pedals at all by cranking the preamp up and keeping the poweramp section around 3-4 on voluem, and then get a really overdriven lead tone with a tubescreamer/OCD. It also will give you the way Fenders are traditionally used by cranking poweramp and boosting the front side like you mentioned earlier. Its a very good gigging amp and it still has a very good solid overall tone. 99.5% of the people in a bar wont be able to tell the difference in tone from a Pro Series Deluxe Reverb and a Blues Jr when both are mic'ed through a PA.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:47 am to
Not a bad call. I had looked at Blues Deluxe, but the Blues Jr does sound great in that video. I'll try to find one around here to play before buying. Thanks
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Not a bad call. I had looked at Blues Deluxe, but the Blues Jr does sound great in that video. I'll try to find one around here to play before buying. Thanks


Find an AC30, too. Not saying it will change your mind, but you want to be sure of your decision before you plunk down that kind of change.
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:57 am to
Definitely will. I'm hoping Guitar Center will have them both to try out. Thanks for info, Vox hadn't really even crossed my mind until you mentioned it.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:39 am to
vox AC30's are really loud with no master volume...
Posted by PPL
Member since Nov 2010
447 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:41 am to
Best AC30-ish amp I ever owned (maybe the best I ever owner, period) was a 2x12 Top Hat Club Deluxe. I kick myself all the time for selling it.
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:23 pm to
I have a '65 Deluxe and it's awesome, but I prefer my super reverb since it has a nice tremelo and a mid-setting on the tone panel. It can play loud or soft. I'm a rock player mostly with a blues background.
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