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re: Barb Walters tells Koch "You're not well liked."
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:36 pm to cwill
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:36 pm to cwill
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Do you have any response to my links re the kochs stance on immigration, gay marriage and drugs?
The Koch brothers are well known to be libertarians. But I'm not going to comment on some blogs I've never heard of posted by someone like you.
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:38 pm to cwill
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You expect anyone to believe that bullshite? Nice spin!
So, which one is on the left? Answer the question.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:42 pm to Hawkeye95
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he isn't particularly well liked.
The Kochs are well liked in all the circles I hang in.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:43 pm to Zach
Ok, I think I understand now. You're dimmer than I thought. I said the kochs themselves if they ran for office as republicans prob couldn't win their parties nomination due to there particular stances on the aforementioned issues. I never said the kochs weren't pragmatists that didn't support candidates that they disagreed with on those issues. How you got from a to b is beyond me. 
ETA: you're right in one regard, Walters would vote for neither as she isn't conservative or libertarian.
ETA: you're right in one regard, Walters would vote for neither as she isn't conservative or libertarian.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:44 pm to Zach
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Posted by Zach
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Do you have any response to my links re the kochs stance on immigration, gay marriage and drugs?
The Koch brothers are well known to be libertarians. But I'm not going to comment on some blogs I've never heard of posted by someone like you.
It's true I guess, that as we age we become children again.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:47 pm to cwill
You didn't answer my question. Maybe you can't read so well ..
WHICH ONE IS ON THE LEFT?
I shall now hold my breath while you try to spin your way out of that.
WHICH ONE IS ON THE LEFT?
I shall now hold my breath while you try to spin your way out of that.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:57 pm to cwill
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ETA: you're right in one regard, Walters would vote for neither as she isn't conservative or libertarian.
Barbara used the word 'conservative.' 'That's why you are disliked'. It's in the OP. But you claim that the GOP wouldn't like Koch because he is libertarian...even though I distrust your links.
Both are on the RIGHT. Cassidy and Koch would run on the same ticket easily. That is why you people hate both of them. The GOP establishment doesn't like Cassidy nor Koch. They are in the Jeb Bush mode.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:58 pm to Zach
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The GOP establishment doesn't like Cassidy
Now you're going off the rails in the opposite direction of cwill.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:05 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The GOP establishment doesn't like Cassidy Now you're going off the rails in the opposite direction of cwill.
So, you really think Cassidy is an establishment guy? Vitter ran and won on one simple issue "I hate Obama'.
I took Cassidy's campaign as the same thing.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:08 pm to Zach
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So, you really think Cassidy is an establishment guy?
Yeah, I'm afraid so.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:46 pm to Zach
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You didn't answer my question.
Why should I? It makes no sense and drags the argument into some nonsensical realm. It's strawmanish.
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I shall now hold my breath while you try to spin your way out of that.
Spinning is your forte pawpaw.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:50 pm to Zach
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Barbara used the word 'conservative.' 'That's why you are disliked'. It's in the OP. But you claim that the GOP wouldn't like Koch because he is libertarian
I said very plainly, very clearly that the Kochs, if they ran for public office themselves, would have a hard time getting the nomination within the Republican Party, due to there stances on the aforementioned issues. Those stances are not in doubt.
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Both are on the RIGHT.
Koch is a libertarian, he's not right in the sense "right" is understood within the GOP...maybe some day, but not today, especially in the dirty south.
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Cassidy and Koch would run on the same ticket easily.
They would clash on social issues and immigration.
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That is why you people hate both of them.
Who are you calling "you people"...just because you're a fake libertarian doesn't mean you get to put others into categories you don't understand.
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The GOP establishment doesn't like Cassidy nor Koch. They are in the Jeb Bush mode.
Uh, Cassidy...OK pawpaw.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:51 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Now you're going off the rails in the opposite direction of cwill.
You're so above everyone...do you have anything to add yet? Or are you still just creeping around this thread?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:11 pm to cwill
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I said very plainly, very clearly that the Kochs, if they ran for public office themselves, would have a hard time getting the nomination within the Republican Party, due to there stances on the aforementioned issues. Those stances are not in doubt.
Wrong. They would never get the nomination for a high level office...like Senator or President because of name recognition and lack of previous office...like gov. They would have ZERO problems running for HOR in their district.
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Koch is a libertarian, he's not right in the sense "right" is understood within the GOP...maybe some day, but not today, especially in the dirty south.
He is EXTREMELY right. If they are not extremely RIGHT why are they the most hated people by the the left? Hmmmm?
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They would clash on social issues and immigration.
Is that the best ya got?
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Who are you calling "you people"...just because you're a fake libertarian doesn't mean you get to put others into categories you don't understand.
How's yo momma durin?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:36 pm to Zach
Barbara Walters and the kochs have more in common with Barbara Walters and their similar social circles than the kochs do with the majority of the people on this board.
When people realize the kochs are interested in maintaining power for the wealthy and not some free for all libertarian state, they will rest easier.
When people realize the kochs are interested in maintaining power for the wealthy and not some free for all libertarian state, they will rest easier.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:45 pm to Zach
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Wrong. They would never get the nomination for a high level office...like Senator or President because of name recognition and lack of previous office...like gov. They would have ZERO problems running for HOR in their district.
Am I dealing with a simpleton of this magnitude? Why, yes, yes I am.
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He is EXTREMELY right. If they are not extremely RIGHT why are they the most hated people by the the left? Hmmmm?
Many reasons, but the two primary ones are that they fund Republicans and climate change (their business and stance on regs related to same). That's easy. And the first is more of a function of their pragmatism regarding fiscal issues and business. They're also often misrepresented by the left to create a bogeyman - they are the enemy of the Dems so that they would be vilified by the left isn't shocking at all.
That being said, they do hold positions that are in my view not left/right but libertarian. However, in the way people view everything through the left/right prism, some people would consider the Kochs' stances on abortion, gay marriage and immigration "liberal". It fits the simplistic definition of libertarianism as fiscally conservative and socially liberal (which David Koch used in the Walters interview).
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Is that the best ya got?
Considering your assertion and their stances do I need more?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:56 pm to ynlvr
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She tries but he doesn't take the bait.
I would have said, "why don't you like me Barbara?" then went on to explain he doesn't know who these people who don't like him are.
So I think he took the bait a little, but he did spit it out.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:00 pm to Zach
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So, the Kochs are for open borders, gay marriage, abortion and legal drugs? Haven't heard that. Got a link for that one?
You apparently have never listened to them or read anything they have written.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:10 pm to Zach
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How's yo momma durin?
Don't use up comma except in a name for the meme you are insinuating.
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