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re: Why is wanting better for LSU football a negative?

Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:17 pm to
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The negatives among you feed on it.


And the pumpers ALWAYS let stuff slide and move on....is this what you're saying? You know...handling it in an adult way and all?
Posted by ItsThatDude12
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:20 pm to
The Saints lol you're comparing LSU to the Saints?

It's amazing the model that Miles wins with bc in most games the team with the clear disadvantage at QB lose.

When was the last time a team won a national championship with sub par QB play?
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:23 pm to


Offset i formation weak side.the fact that you dont know this proves you know shite about football
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:31 pm to
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The pumper types are more like a cult. They recite the same lines like a mantra, bringing up records that happened years ago while ignoring recent terrible play


FIFY Gray...no no don't thank me!
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:37 pm to
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I said they rationalize the situation.
Good for you. Nobody thinks Miles is infallible. Deal with it.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:38 pm to
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IDGAF what he told you.
So butt out.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:39 pm to
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And the pumpers ALWAYS let stuff slide and move on
Right. Because it's an extra curricular activity. Given that it's an extra curricular activity at a school to which you never went, why in the hell would you hold on to it?
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:51 pm to
There doesn't seem to be much use in discussing this any further with you. You could reasonably agree that you understand what I'm talking about and acknowledge how these attitudes stifle dialogue, but you seem to be too proud/stubborn to do so. You'd rather misread posts and repeat the same dull, snarky lines.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:52 pm to
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So butt out.


The beauty of a chat room is...I don't have too.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:53 pm to
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seem to be too proud/stubborn to do so


Youre being far too generous...pig-headed, delusional, pompous, arrogant, self-righteous...did I miss any?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:55 pm to
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You could reasonably agree that you understand what I'm talking about and acknowledge how these attitudes stifle dialogue
It's not them. It's you.
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You'd rather misread posts
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quote: they've already made up their minds that Miles is always right and completely above any criticism.
Lie.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:56 pm to
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I am not saying that you specifically or all posters who defend Miles have the same attitude. I described a particular mindset that some seem to have --


If that "mindset" is that neither Miles nor the LSU staff coach SEC football without making mistakes, but even with their mistakes their understanding of football dwarfs that of anyone posting in this thread...then, count me into that "mindset"...with all due respect to this thread and the posters expressing their opinion.

BTW, you post as if there is a problem with LSU fans defending the LSU coaching staff on an LSU forum. There isn't and we are not talking bout the GN or CH or MA staff but the staff of one of very best college programs around.

Being critical is not a problem, but being critical to the point that you think you know more/see a problem they don't see is more than a tad amusing.

Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Youre being far too generous...pig-headed, delusional, pompous, arrogant, self-righteous...did I miss any?
LSU Alumnus
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Being critical is not a problem, but being critical to the point that you think you know more/see a problem they don't see


nobody is stating the coaches don't see the problem....they just always seem to be slow to react in addressing the issue and fixing it...you know...plan B.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Lie.


Stop fricking saying that. I showed again and again how their stance does not allow for criticism on this board. They use generalized appeals to authority that put Miles above any adverse opinion. You are a liar if you don't admit that. You've seen the posts and I've explained them. You may have started off confused, but by now, you must understand if you're not a complete idiot.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:33 pm to
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Stop fricking saying that.
Deal with it.
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You may have started off confused, but by now, you must understand if you're not a complete idiot.
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quote: they've already made up their minds that Miles is always right and completely above any criticism.
This is a lie. You told it. Your problem, not mine.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:10 pm to
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This is a lie


Your whole shtick is a lie, a fraud, and one of the greatest trolls in the history of TD.

Merry Christmas "LSU Alum!"
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:15 pm to
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Lonnie4LSU


What I'm talking about is the general mindset that Miles can't be criticized on this board because no poster can possibly know something that Miles doesn't know, and that even when Miles is wrong, his decision is still superior, based solely on his position of authority. I feel like I've explained this already in detail.

I'm familiar with your posts, Lonnie. I have been since we discussed the spike/clock-it incident (2009 game vs. Ole Miss). Frankly, I find your posts dull. They're usually from the same angle -- a lot of praise for Miles and Geaux Tigers emoticons, which is fine. Personally, I prefer to read posts that are more analytical, or funny, or critical, or original, etc. I'm not going to go out of my way to put-down your posts (especially as automatically invalid based on fallacious appeals to authority -- if you do have an opinion, I will judge the substance of it). As you often say, "each to our own." But, people often put-down posters who have a critical opinion, in lieu of a substantive discussion/argument. As I've already explained in this thread, it usually devolves into a lot of automatic disqualifications (ad hominems), misrepresentations, appeals to authority, etc. Some of the Pumpers act as if an adverse opinion is invalid from the start. If there's no room for dissenting opinion, what is this board for? Adulation, basic information and emoticons? To me, part of the fun of talking about sports is arguing. I'm not talking about something nasty (fighting, personal attacks). I'm talking about a good healthy argument. If you don't like that, and you prefer constant flattery for your team, fine. Why even jump into threads like this? I mean, I understand that passion is a major part of sports, and a lot fans have a deluded sense of disrespect regarding their team, but I see your position on this as flatteringly dull and not respectful to people who have different opinions than you. How many people on this board do you know? Do you really think you can dismiss all of their opinions as invalid that easily? Sure, most coaches know a great deal more than the average message board poster, but that doesn't mean there can't be particular insights, and different perspectives of value.

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BTW, you post as if there is a problem with LSU fans defending the LSU coaching staff on an LSU forum.


No. That is your extremely biased interpretation. As I said, I like a good argument from time to time. The defenders are needed to have the argument. My issue is with the posters that try to cancel the argument before it gets started by attempting to render dissenting/critical opinion automatically invalid.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 3:54 pm
Posted by inadaze
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:19 pm to
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This is a lie. You told it. Your problem, not mine.


Let's see -- if he can't be told anything he doesn't know, and when he's wrong, he's actually right -- you tell me, where's the room for criticism?
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