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Classic struggle going on right now: Obama vs Pelosi & House Black Caucus

Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:02 pm
Going to be some bitter hard feelings leftover from today no matter how this plays out. Obama isolating himself from his own people in Congress is coming home to roost. Not a good omen for him for the next two years even if he emerges victorious tonight or tomorrow.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118679 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:06 pm to
Is this mostly about the cromibus?
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Is this mostly about the cromibus?



With regard to this thread title, 100% yes. Fierce Administration pressure being put on them to approve it as I type this.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118679 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:15 pm to
So will Warren get blamed for the shut down if it doesn't pass?

I turned on C-Span and I heard a Dem rep opining for the removal of bank derivative language. This is coming from Warren, right?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:16 pm to
Kinda hard to choose a side

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think both the Left and the Right are against passing this, only for different reasons.

The more Establishment-type bureaucrats, like Obama, Reid, and Boehner, are for it. Strange bedfellows to an extent. Then again, maybe not.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Kinda hard to choose a side


I'm hoping Warren crashes this pos bill.

Maybe she and Gohmert can get together on this.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118679 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:19 pm to
What I find kind of funny is Obama and Boehner both want a year long cromibus. Both don't want to have to deal with the new congress anytime soon. They need a little time to brain w...I mean break them in.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:30 pm to
So, conservatives should be rooting for this thing to cranh and burn, right?

Damn. I'm in bed with the Black Caucus, and Mia Love isn't even there yet.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118679 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

So, conservatives should be rooting for this thing to cranh and burn, right?



I believe the best case is to pass a short term cr. About a month long. Talk about a headache for Boehner, McConnell and Obama.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:41 pm to
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Fierce Administration pressure being put on them to approve it as I type this.
Interesting.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Mia Love isn't even there yet


She will not even be invited to the CBC and she will be barred entry, even if she asks, period.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89481 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

I believe the best case is to pass a short term cr. About a month long.


1 month won't do it - they'll just be convening in a month - the best case for those against the Omnibus would be a 2 or 3 month - until February/March timeframe to get one passed through September 30 - THEN immediately go to work for FY 16.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118679 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

She will not even be invited to the CBC and she will be barred entry, even if she asks, period.



Not the right culture.

Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:53 pm to
I, i was just joking. I know she won't be caucusing with the CBC.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68045 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:57 pm to
Allen West was a Member of the Black Caucus.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68045 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:57 pm to
She stated she plans to.

quote:

"Yes, yes. I would join the Congressional Black Caucus and try to take that thing apart from the inside out," she said.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

Posted by Jake88Allen West was a Member of the Black Caucus


Being a member and being told when and where the caucuses are taking place are two different things.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34868 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

So will Warren get blamed for the shut down if it doesn't pass? I turned on C-Span and I heard a Dem rep opining for the removal of bank derivative language. This is coming from Warren, right?


Just hear on Fox...MoveOn.org has thrown support for Dem Pres nomination to Warren. She's feeling her oats. Good...we need everybody on the record for '16.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:10 pm to
Well, maybe I'll stand corrected on that.

I didn't think they let Allen West join.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:15 pm to
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Eleventh hour additions of two policy provisions on campaign finance and banking rules have enraged those on the left who now say the bill is a special interest boondoggle


This after the bill had largely been agreed upon.

politicians being politicians.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 5:16 pm
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