Could Mullen co exist with Barry Alverez

I think Wisconsin is a great fit for him.

Agree Mullen and Whisky seem a perfect match.

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Could Mullen co exist with Barry Alverez

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I don't think so; I wonder if Alverez is a little out of control up there.
Beilema seemed a little odd in making the lateral move to Arkansas, but I bought the "SEC is the place to be" line. But then you see Andersen hitting the eject button now, and I have to guess there's more than a little strife. Maybe a combination of lowballing salaries and too much "I'm a better coach than you are" coming from the AD, and so when Oregon St called he said screw this and left.

Sure -- if he wanted to take a $1.5mil pay cut, have less $$ for assistants, and a controlling AD/former coach looking over his shoulder rather than complete autonomy to run a program as he sees fit...

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Sure -- if he wanted to take a $1.5mil pay cut, have less $$ for assistants, and a controlling AD/former coach looking over his shoulder rather than complete autonomy to run a program as he sees fit...

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Actually those guesses seem pretty spot on. Barry is looking like shite

This garbage about BA being the problem is ridiculous.

Bielema left because of the wifey. And he wanted to be the "man" somewhere else. But IMO if there were no Jen- Brett would not have left.His staff turnover was from guys climbing the ladder or just wanting a break from him. He wasn't well liked in Madison because he is ....Bert. But he could have outgrown that if he choose.

Andersen simply wasn't a cultural fit. A Utah guy and small school guy that wanted to move to a spread. He is much better suited for the underdog role of the Beavers. He was also frustrated with admissions and not getting his JUCOs in. He never fully got "Wisconsin"

Alvarez isn't perfect but he isn't a villain. He has built it his way and sustained it now thru 2 decades and what will be 4 coaches. No dips like a Tennessee or Michigan or even Florida. 13 straight bowls. We may not win at the pinnacle - but those restrictions in admissions and the geographical location of Madison make that extremely challenging.

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Well ok... In order for us to believe this isn't just the denial talking, tell us what those family issues were. We're listening.

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Sure.

BB: Bret was a good coach for us. But we suffered greatly while he matured. Be it his on the field decisions (card said go for it) or his off the field antics. Bret was young and single when he was promoted. And he acted like an overgrown douchey frat boy for a great deal of his single life. Madison is a small city and you can't hide that kind of behavior. More importantly you can't hide it when you are caught hitting on young women who are connected to movers and players at the U. He actually had to have a sit down about this kind of thing. But, like a certain NFL qb who played in Wisconsin it was covered up and people looked the other way. He was a jerk, but he was our jerk.

When Bret got married it was pretty apparent that Jen wasn't prepared for the legend that he had created. I can't blame her for wanting to get a fresh start away from the looks and whispers.

That is why there was so much hurt regarding Bret. We protected him when he was a jerk, expecting we would get the mature years.

I'm not going to lie and say that BA doesn't cast a shadow and that B wanted to escape that, but if you knew their relationship there is no way he left because if BA. In fact he didn't meet with BA Cause he knew that if he did BA would have convinced him to stay.

Andersen: quite simply he was from a different culture. Small town utah. Madison is a fairly liberal city with folks that like to have a good time and drink. The best reference I can give you is it would be like Everybody Loves Raymond. You have the Barones, the loud, get in your business, have a beer kind of family vs. Robert's wife's family. They don't swear. They are reserved. We see the same kind of reaction between Minny folks and Wisconsin folks.

Neither is wrong. Just different.

Andersen also has had major health issues. He is on record about working less and having less stress after his back injury. Supposedly coach Busch is a good friend who is also suppose to keep an eye on him and keep him in check. I don't think he was really aware of how much different life was going to be. And Wisconsin is nothing compared to dOSU, Michy, Bama, LSU, etc.

The same way most wisconsin folks don't understand how much more rabid south football fans are year round. I lived in the south so I get that on Friday night there are folks calling into local talk radio to discuss some eight grader. In wisconsin we move on to basketball whereas it is college football 24/7/365 in the south.

If you watched CGA's pressers it was painful. If you watched him at booster functions it was painful. He actually made folks long for Bret, even when he was still learning how to press the flesh.

I think CGA thought he wanted the UW job. Think he thought he was ready for the challenge of trying to win a NC. But think he realized he wasn't cut out for it. There is literally no pressure in Corvalis. Look how long they kept Riley.


BA: ftr, he has nothing to do with academics or pay. That is out of his hands. Pay is an issue across the board. Profs aren't paid as well as other Big Ten U's.

BA isn't long for the AD position. He is fast approaching 70. And he spends quite a bit of time at his pad in Napkes. Not to mention all the playoff stuff.

And I'm not a big fan of putting up statues to living people. And I'm ok with judging him for his hires, but he is definitely not some controlling tyrant. If so, he would have never hired CGA as everything CGA believed in was different than BA. Aranda changed our entire defense. And CGA was moving from the pro style offense we ran under BA and Bb to the spread.

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Barry is a arse hole I know a few kids who were recruited by him and have said how big of an arse he is. These geographical execuses are garbage. You won't find the skill postions in Wisconsion as you would down south. All you have to do is take a recruiy down state street and they should be getting jungle fever by the end of the night.

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The hundreds of olayers of his say differently. The players that asked him to coach in the two bowl games say differently.

Geography: you are a moron. As someone who lived in the south, south floridians complain if they are in 60 degree weather. Most can't handle 30 and worse.

Oh, and I'm not even touching the academics. Our standards are much higher than the sec and other big ten schools. Fact.

Thanks Bucky, good explanation.

My mother's family were from northern Wisconsin and they all went to school in Madison, so I know how unique UW is. Great academic tradition centered in a liberal-populist town centered in a conservative State with a history of Bob LaFollett and 40 years of socialist government in Milwaukee. That's a political melting pot that could make any outsider feel disconnected.

I'll back off of my previous criticisms of Alvarez, mea culpa. However the perception that the loss of these two coaches is his fault is what the UW community will have to deal with now. It may not be justified, but that's what they will have to overcome during this search. A succession plan for Alvarez and emphasis on the academic control of decisions effecting the football operations need to be incorporated in the candidate interviews. Even with a 'local' guy like Doeren or Chryst.

Anderson's resignation is upsetting, however UW will overcome this. The new coach just needs to know exactly what his responsibilities are at such a strong academic university. As you say, "And Wisconsin is nothing compared to dOSU, Michy, Bama, LSU, etc." But to be more correct, they are nothing like Wisconsin. Thank God and frick 'em Bucky.

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Edited to add: The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is now reporting that Chryst is the guy. As a native of Madison, I think we can all say he'll fit in just fine. Congratulations to the UW community.