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NFC South Scenarios
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:04 pm
I know that none of us are talking about the NFC South title scenarios because we're all so demoralized after the worst loss of the Payton/Brees era and being 5-8 just flat out sucks... hard to get pumped up. Especially when Atlanta is so clearly trending up and we're so clearly trending meh.
Atlanta now holds the tiebreaker (even if we beat them in Week 16), correct?
Meaning that if Atlanta beats Pittsburgh and Carolina and we lose to either Chicago or Tampa Bay the Falcons would take the South?
Atlanta now holds the tiebreaker (even if we beat them in Week 16), correct?
Meaning that if Atlanta beats Pittsburgh and Carolina and we lose to either Chicago or Tampa Bay the Falcons would take the South?
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:06 pm to SirWinston
Correct. We cannot finish with the same record.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:07 pm to SirWinston
We have to go 3-0 to make the playoffs and then the ship.
But I'd rather have the #9 pick (or better)
But I'd rather have the #9 pick (or better)
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:07 pm to SirWinston
did you not see my comprehensive 3 games remaining thread
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:09 pm to AstroTiger
Atlanta is currently getting 2 points at home versus Pittsburgh.
It might be my favorite play of the week. I'll probably wait until kickoff to pull the trigger b/c I want to see if Julio Jones and William Moore are green-lighted.
I pick Atlanta to win outright
It might be my favorite play of the week. I'll probably wait until kickoff to pull the trigger b/c I want to see if Julio Jones and William Moore are green-lighted.
I pick Atlanta to win outright
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:09 pm to Chad504boy
I'm sorry bro I was posting on a phone all week. I'll let this one die 
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:26 pm to SirWinston
If the Saints beat Atlanta, but lose to Tampa and the Bears, they could still win the division if Atlanta were to lose out.
A win by either NO or ATL (which is all but guaranteed) eliminates Tampa.
If Carolina loses the next two and then beat ATL in the final game, then the Saints would go.
It is pretty crazy to think that New Orleans could go 2-6 in the second half of the season and still win the division as long as they beat Atlanta.
A win by either NO or ATL (which is all but guaranteed) eliminates Tampa.
If Carolina loses the next two and then beat ATL in the final game, then the Saints would go.
It is pretty crazy to think that New Orleans could go 2-6 in the second half of the season and still win the division as long as they beat Atlanta.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:39 pm to SirWinston
quote:
I pick Atlanta to win outright
Not seeing it.
Their D is as bad as the Saints if not worse
But their O is much better than the Saints
Still don't see it
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:46 pm to Geauxgurt
Saints win next 2 (@ CHI, vs. ATL)... that's 7-8
Falcons split next 2 (vs. PIT, @ NO)... that's 6-9
Panthers win next 2 (vs. TB, vs. CLE)... that's 6-8-1
Saints would have to win @ TB to win division in that scenario... lose and winner of CAR @ ATL wins division I believe
let's say they all split... that's 6-9 for the Saints, 6-9 for the Falcons, 5-9-1 for CAR... Saints would have to win @ TB and hope the Panthers can win in ATL... Falcons would have tiebreaker over Saints...
either 2-0 in head-to-head vs. NO
OR
div. record (ATL 5-1 vs. NFCS vs. NO 4-2 vs. NFCS)
edit: if CAR wins next 2 and Saints split... then we can get mad at Cincy's K again for allowing that tie as that would be a big reason we'd be eliminated
Falcons split next 2 (vs. PIT, @ NO)... that's 6-9
Panthers win next 2 (vs. TB, vs. CLE)... that's 6-8-1
Saints would have to win @ TB to win division in that scenario... lose and winner of CAR @ ATL wins division I believe
let's say they all split... that's 6-9 for the Saints, 6-9 for the Falcons, 5-9-1 for CAR... Saints would have to win @ TB and hope the Panthers can win in ATL... Falcons would have tiebreaker over Saints...
either 2-0 in head-to-head vs. NO
OR
div. record (ATL 5-1 vs. NFCS vs. NO 4-2 vs. NFCS)
edit: if CAR wins next 2 and Saints split... then we can get mad at Cincy's K again for allowing that tie as that would be a big reason we'd be eliminated
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:53 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
Not seeing it.
Their D is as bad as the Saints if not worse
But their O is much better than the Saints
Still don't see it
statistically... the Saints have the 31st ranked D in the NFL...
the Falcons have the 32nd
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:58 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
But their O is much better than the Saints
I don't really agree with this.
LINK
They do not run the ball well at all.
Some efficiency stats - Per Drive
Yards - Saints 40.08 (1) vs ATL 33.76 (9)
Pts - Saints 2.42 (7) vs ATL 2.21 (10)
TOs - Saints .152 (25) vs ATL .134 (20)
DSR represents Drive Success Rate, as introduced in Pro Football Prospectus 2005, which measures the percentage of down series that result in a first down or touchdown. Take-a-knee drives at the end of a half are discarded.
DSR - Saints 2nd, Atl 12th
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:00 pm to TigerBait1127
we should keep an eye on today's injury reports (Saints don't release 1 until tomorrow for MNF)... CAR just officially announced Anderson as the starter vs. TB (no shocker) and Julio Jones status vs. PIT will be very interesting (fairly certain he got hurt at end of game @ GB)
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:20 pm to LSUZombie
quote:+984758974389573987598347598347984
But I'd rather have the #9 pick (or better)
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:06 pm to Neauxla
Look guys chill. Saints are just a measley 7 game winning streak from another Super Bowl title.
No biggie.
No biggie.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:39 pm to SirWinston
Atlanta won't beat PIT. Here's how I see ATL finishing:
PIT: L
@NO: L
CAR: W (toss up maybe depending on Cam now).
I have no idea about the Saints but win this week and win against ATL and you win the South. This is what I think (and hope) will happen.
PIT: L
@NO: L
CAR: W (toss up maybe depending on Cam now).
I have no idea about the Saints but win this week and win against ATL and you win the South. This is what I think (and hope) will happen.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:41 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
Not seeing it. Their D is as bad as the Saints if not worse
Yep. We're actually statistically the 1 team worse than NO (through this week). Y'all have the #31 ranked overall D. ATL is at #32.
"We suck again!"
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:42 pm to DoubleDown
quote:
Atlanta won't beat PIT. Here's how I see ATL finishing:
Probably not, but they certainly have a shot. We blew them out.
Atlanta is 3-3 over the last 6 with a loss by 1 to Detroit (should have won), a loss to Cleveland by 2 (should have won), and a loss to Green Bay by 6.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:44 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
Atlanta is 3-3 over the last 6 with a loss by 1 to Detroit (should have won), a loss to Cleveland by 2 (should have won), and a loss to Green Bay by 6.
God damnit, don't give me hope. Hope is lost.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:55 pm to DoubleDown
I was going to say 3-2 over the last 5, but I think the Detroit game was one of the best games i've watched either the Saints or Atl play.
Both teams lost the game, but both teams completely outplayed a quality opponent.
Both teams lost the game, but both teams completely outplayed a quality opponent.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:22 pm to TigerBait1127
All of that insane luck that Atlanta had in 2012 has abandoned the frick out of them the past 2 years. They are even more snakebit than the Saints have been
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