re: Brady >>> Brees (esp in leadership)

Ditka used to scream at players a lot too. That didn't seem to help.

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how passive drew Brees is when he interacts with his teammates and on the sideline Brady is a real leader and has fire in his belly

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I agree with the original post 100%.. Brees does not seem to have near the fire or emotion that Brady has. He seems to just be going through the motion when what this team needs is a leader with fire who will get in people's arse and not look at his little note pad every time the defense is on the field. Look im not knocking brees, our franchise would not be close to what it is today without him. He is a first ballot hall of famer and the best player without question in Saints history. Just wish he played with the same fire and intensity as Brady and had the same leadership qualities. The story of this team all year has been a lack of leadership, seems like Brees would have already stepped up and taken this roll.

Different systems, different coaches, different QB personalities. An NFL team's success is almost always dependent on making the personalities work.

I get that fans see lack of intensity on the team, and that is quite apparent. But look in years past how it worked and the differing personalities of the coaches. Belichick has always been more reserved on the field, whereas Sean Payton has been a bit more energetic in the past. Just look at how he used to get in the faces of players when they screwed up in 2006. Every team needs that, but each team differs in what person is the one holding players personally accountable. The Brees-Payton system that has been so effective in years past has as much to do with their combined personalities as it does their talents.

If you reversed Brees/Brady and put them on each-other's teams, you would find much less effective offenses due to personality issues. It would probably only take one game before Payton and Brady killed one another, and about half a season before Belichick died from a heart attack from trying to get his players energized on the sidelines.

I think the key here is Payton's on-field coaching style has changed.

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As a Brees basher, I'm pretty sure that other QBs have those tablets these days.

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I get the impression that Brees interacts with his teammates less on the sideline than any prominent or great QB in the NFL. I used to sit in the Dome and admire his body language and interactions. Now I'm no longer in the Dome, but it does seem from the TV shots and from the recent road games I've been to that he interacts with his WR's and OL as seldom as possible.

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he interacts with his WR's and OL as seldom as possible

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Maybe he's holding himself more accountable than others? Also, when you are running for your life you miss players in progression, so it's good to see what you've missed when you get back to the sidelines to break down a defense's tendencies.

I can tell you from experience that if another player from a different position, even if he is a captain, walks over to you and your group on the sidelines and starts screaming it has the opposite effect.

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I have no doubt he is giving 100% effort. But accountability and leadership are different from effort. And results are what they are because of it.

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Please explain what he has done or not done in regards to;

1)accountability
2)leadership.

What should he be doing differently that would result in more wins in regards to these two issue?

I'll hang up and listen.

BTW: flipping burgers? MORON.

10 stinkin points, and 7 of that coming from a garbage TD when the game is no longer in question, and at home, against one of the bottom feeders of the league this season. And some of you guys want to blame this on the DEFENSE?

Pretty sure Brees called the QB sneak @ Carolina too. Wasn't that a 4th down?

Honestly there's no point even trying to reason with Alejandro.

I've seen numerous games where Tom Brady looked like shite and the Patriots still won. Never have I seen a Saints win when Brees was awful or even mediocre. My point is if Brees is not good to great the Saints do not have a shot at winning the game . That's an awful lot of pressure and one hell of a burden Brees carries each week where as Brady can get by with being average and still win.