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Poll Question: Eric Garner

Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:01 am
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:01 am
I want to run a quick poll

Up Vote - If there should have been an indictment

Down Vote - If there should not have been an indictment
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2009
7940 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:01 am to
What do we do if we don't care?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:03 am to
If you care enough to jump in this thread then give an opinion.

Otherwise, treat it like most the threads you don't care about and avoid
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:46 am to
Yes IMHO there should have been an indictment. whether he was found guilty or not it would lay out all the facts and laws involved and help end some of the ridicules speculation going on. Having a trial also sends a signal that cops are not above the law.
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12509 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:59 am to
quote:

Having a trial also sends a signal that cops are not above the law.


But you don't indict someone simply dor the sake of having a trial. Why would they even have a grand jury if you just want to parade the person for the sake of a trial of a jury of one's peers do not think there is enough evidence?

And I'm no cop apologist.
Posted by Tyler9258
Auburn
Member since Dec 2013
4204 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:01 am to
You should comply with what cops say, right or wrong. It'll get straightened out if they're wrong.


With that being said, I don't think cops should just be choking motherfrickers out left and right and that be an okay thing.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:18 am to
quote:

But you don't indict someone simply dor the sake of having a trial. Why would they even have a grand jury if you just want to parade the person for the sake of a trial of a jury of one's peers do not think there is enough evidence?



As has been said before a competent DA can get an indictment against a ham sandwich, I do not think much effort was put into this before the Grand Jury. THAT is a problem. DA's and police depts. can get a little too cozy with each other sometimes for the public good. Not sure that is what happened here but it certainly looks like it from the outside. Again JMHO
Posted by lsuohiofan
Alliance,Ohio
Member since Oct 2011
1503 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:39 am to
Bad law and that is the issue. No high taxes no black market cigarette sales.

Stupid people for staying, They need to move out of New York!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:53 am to
Indictment, but no evidence of racial motivation.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24249 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:39 am to
quote:

it would lay out all the facts and laws



What do you think a grand jury does?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:48 am to
quote:

You should comply with what cops say, right or wrong. It'll get straightened out if they're wrong.


Doubtful. Cops get away with a great deal of shite. But the biggest reason is because you're not going to win the fight and have a high likelihood of getting injured at the least.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:11 pm to
FYI, I found out last night that the US is the only country that still has grand jury's .

I thought it was interesting every other country has abandoned GJ's.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19054 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:35 pm to
No indictment.
When the cops tell you to do something you do it. If you think they are wrong you can file a grievance later.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:47 pm to
Should have been an indictment.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

When the cops tell you to do something you do it. If you think they are wrong you can file a grievance later.


so a cop says give me all the cash in your wallet. Do you give him the cash in your wallet?

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

so a cop says give me all the cash in your wallet. Do you give him the cash in your wallet?


Yes. And then I file a grievance. It's very simple. That's why cops don't do that. They would get fired.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98474 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:04 pm to
Because I do not know what was presented to the GJ, and what charge was sought, I cannot say.

If you are asking based solely on the video, and if the charge sought was a murder charge that required intent, then I will be voting no.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Yes. And then I file a grievance. It's very simple. That's why cops don't do that. They would get fired.


but they do do it
LINK /

The requirement for you to obey a cop is that the system will treat your grievance fairly. The above link points to me that in fact they DGAF and will steal from you without recourse.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

the cops searched the car and found $17,550 in cash, which they kept,


Wow, that's outrageous. I always keep that much cash in my car. So, what did the cops do with it? Did they buy a house?
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